GH Noob Here. Top Colors??

[Dr JIM]

Yeah I can live with that, but the constant negativity gets old. I asked him about testing...no reply.

Looking back I did respond to your PM and you NEVER asked me about testing GH!

You only queried whether the Western Bio Karl was pushing was GTG bc you had "limited funds" but wanted to "try some GH". I suggested you should "wait bc something wasn't right with K's GH". (Oh yea those are the facts and it's fine by me if you would like to post ANY of our PM's)

I wonder what you would be saying now if I said that WB crap was worth a go! Shit, I would have never heard the end of your complaining about how I was WRONG!

I posted a PM once more yet never heard from YOU AGIAN! What you want my phone number so we can chat! GROW UP KIDO!

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Oh...I must have been mistaken..

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

I pm you yesterday...im not here to fight, just saying your pretty fucking negative all the time..

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Looking back I did respond to your PM and you NEVER asked me about testing GH!

You only queried whether the Western Bio Karl was pushing was GTG bc you had "limited funds" but wanted to "try some GH". I suggested you should "wait bc something wasn't right with K's GH". (Oh yea those are the facts and it's fine by me if you would like to post ANY of our PM's)

I wonder what you would be saying now if I said that WB crap was worth a go! Shit, I would have never heard the end of your complaining about how I was WRONG!

I posted a PM once more yet never heard from YOU AGIAN! What you want my phone number so we can chat! GROW UP KIDO!

I give credit, I never ordered shit from Karl btw.

I was just noting that aside from all the great info you provide you sure carry a negative energy with it.. No ones challenging your knowledge, im a dipshit compared to you on these issues, however i said you come off real abrasive.

 

[Dr JIM]

Damn are you NUTS also, YOU posted this "PM" YESTERDAY CLOWN! Some of US have other responsibilities exclusive of answering Meso PMs from TWO YEAR OLDS!

What you want free testing, fast service, delivered in a cordial and "nonabrasive" manner!

TRY WALMARTS CHILDREN SECTION! (Don't forget to ask for some "free" candy ya immature brat)

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Sooo where's the part I asked for anything for free? Im not two, im 35 Jim. I tried Walmarts Children's section, they said no...now what boss?

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Btw, I am nuts. So what?

 

[Dr JIM]

Try the curbside!

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

I did Jim, so again...are you here to reply or keep talking down to me? All bitching aside I asked a valid fucking question, if you don't want to help great, no surprise. Want to point me in the right direction for MS testing like I asked or continue to just plain be a dick?

 

[stoneMASON]

With all due respect to everyone involved in this tread, there is some real good info here especially in regards to purity levels. @Dr JIM I have seen you in a few threads and I totally respect the knowledge your bringing to the table especially since I am researching my first GH cycle. If i was the other participants I would just be happy that someone is willing to give there expertise on these topics without sugar coating it whether or not they like the final answer. Good thread and good info...hope u don't mind but I am going to follow you if that's cool!

 

[romaleos]

The irony is that the MS and demonxp GH come from the same "factory".

 

[Marcus]

The irony is that the MS and demonxp GH come from the same "factory".

Sounds like just about everyone's generic do

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Is the "Factory GH" ever been mass spec?

 

[romaleos]

Don't think so. But it has been blood tested both GH and IGF, which apparently doesn't prove biological efficacy. So the jury is still out.

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Well I asked earlier, I dunno anyone who runs mass spec but I'll chip in the grey top and cash to have it done....community needs ta know...

 

[CeymoreButtz]

I would be interested in testing what I have as well. However I have never used generics before just mostly Humatrope, but recently picked up some "top shelf" generics from a respected guy.. If there is such a thing... Hey, I have money to burn and I am curious. So since starting 4 wks ago I am getting some similar results, not identical to my Humatrope.
We do have to take it easy on Dr Jim, he probably gets bombarded with PMs 24/7. I realized when I pm'd him, how is he to know I am not a source trying to discredit another source... So that opened my eyes when I went to him to see if he had tested what I had.... There is very good reason he has the viewpoints he has... He is trying to help all of you NOT poison yourselves...

My 2 Cents,

 

[BR1217]

Please research hgh and the manufacturing processes involved in making real hgh! I use to think that quality generics were everywhere and anyone paying for pharm grade hgh was wasting their money, then I tried generics. I used two kits of Hyges with all of the usual side effects, swollen hands, painful joints, etc. I switched to Serostim because the pain in my joints was miserable. I wanted to see if Sero's effected me the same way. Within 2-3 weeks of running sero's my pain was gone and I felt great! What DrJim is saying regarding generics is spot on! There are no generic manufacturing facilities! There are no real generics! Please do your research with an open mind. If you do your research determined to prove that quality generics exist you will find a way to make that happen. Do your research without any preconceived ideas and only rely on documented facts, science.

 

[Marcus]

Then can I ask what is in some of these generics? What's raising GH serum and IGF? Is it a concoction of peptides cut with low amounts of pharma? Just peptides? Cut pharma? Complete hit or miss?

Serious question here. Does anyone know how peptides effect these levels? Or is the research just way too elementary? In personal opinions are peptides worth running at all, maybe get blood drawn at different times with them to see the body's reaction?

 

[BR1217]

Then can I ask what is in some of these generics? What's raising GH serum and IGF? Is it a concoction of peptides cut with low amounts of pharma? Just peptides? Cut pharma? Complete hit or miss?

Serious question here. Does anyone know how peptides effect these levels? Or is the research just way too elementary? In personal opinions are peptides worth running at all, maybe get blood drawn at different times with them to see the body's reaction?

There is a thread from a few months ago that addresses some of these questions. I will look for it and post the link in a little bit.

 

[Galileo]

i wish I could see a reliable figure over how many people who THINK they've used GH (at the claimed concentration) actually HAVE used such.

I wonder what that number would be. Must be well under 1%.