Test Prop and PIP

[Voltrader]

Now through out my years Test Prop has always given me PIP. The worst being a blend I got from a compounding Pharmacy but damn good results. Recently over the last several months I have ventured out and tried some TP from different places PEP-No PIP-Bunk, MFL(twice) one was a replacement-No PIP-Bunk. Recently I pulled out some from a tried and true guess what PIP, then for kicks just last week tried another highly regarded and PIP. I will be running blood work here in 2 weeks since I am on a little 6 week blast and confirm if it is good. I remember thinking when I first ran PEP I was like finally a TP with no PIP. It just seems to me that anytime I have legit TP I get PIP not crippling or anything but it is there. My Dr. will argue you should always get PIP because it is related to the ester. The Doc has been wrong before. Just interested in thoughts. I am not saying in no way PIP is an indicator of good gear. Just like to hear thoughts on the ester or is it the process.

 

[Y2JVD]

its the process and what oil is being used. I used Astros test prop and it had no pip at all.

 

[Kubrick]

its the process and what oil is being used. I used Astros test prop and it had no pip at all.

Same. No PIP from Astro test P at all!

 

[Big_paul]

Now through out my years Test Prop has always given me PIP. The worst being a blend I got from a compounding Pharmacy but damn good results. Recently over the last several months I have ventured out and tried some TP from different places PEP-No PIP-Bunk, MFL(twice) one was a replacement-No PIP-Bunk. Recently I pulled out some from a tried and true guess what PIP, then for kicks just last week tried another highly regarded and PIP. I will be running blood work here in 2 weeks since I am on a little 6 week blast and confirm if it is good. I remember thinking when I first ran PEP I was like finally a TP with no PIP. It just seems to me that anytime I have legit TP I get PIP not crippling or anything but it is there. My Dr. will argue you should always get PIP because it is related to the ester. The Doc has been wrong before. Just interested in thoughts. I am not saying in no way PIP is an indicator of good gear. Just like to hear thoughts on the ester or is it the process.

Volt about the closest you will ever come to painless test prop is to use 100mg dissolved over night in 20ml bb and 2/10 ml ba. With this recipe there is no pip other that some tightness the next day and when you get into the gym and hang and bang next day it clears right up.
85 mg/ ml is all but painless.

 

[BIGMESC]

I am coming to believe that much of what is being sold as Test p is actually low dose Test E/C.

I have done some labmax on a few Test p vials and it shows fluorescents like low dose Test E and when more drops are added, very much like Test E.

I have not tested Astro's but it has worked well for me in the past.

 

[BigShadow]

Now through out my years Test Prop has always given me PIP. The worst being a blend I got from a compounding Pharmacy but damn good results. Recently over the last several months I have ventured out and tried some TP from different places PEP-No PIP-Bunk, MFL(twice) one was a replacement-No PIP-Bunk. Recently I pulled out some from a tried and true guess what PIP, then for kicks just last week tried another highly regarded and PIP. I will be running blood work here in 2 weeks since I am on a little 6 week blast and confirm if it is good. I remember thinking when I first ran PEP I was like finally a TP with no PIP. It just seems to me that anytime I have legit TP I get PIP not crippling or anything but it is there. My Dr. will argue you should always get PIP because it is related to the ester. The Doc has been wrong before. Just interested in thoughts. I am not saying in no way PIP is an indicator of good gear. Just like to hear thoughts on the ester or is it the process.

Volt You should try cutting it with b12. I have a friend that has the same issues. Ive pinned the same stuff with no issues so its has to.be individual for each.person. He also started cutting it with mast. Said that made it smooth. I would try the b12 first.

 

[Voltrader]

I do wonder if these things vary from individual to individual as far as PIP is concerned. I remember running Organon Sust 250. I had PIP my buddy did not. So is it possible that on a individual basis one can react to the ester?

Ha Shadow posted at the same time .....the PIP pain is not an issue. It doesn't bother me in a mental way it might help.

 

[BigShadow]

I do wonder if these things vary from individual to individual as far as PIP is concerned. I remember running Organon Sust 250. I had PIP my buddy did not. So is it possible that on a individual basis one can react to the ester?

See my comment above LoL. We must have hit enter at the same time.

 

[inkandmuscle]

In your experience is the PIP just a minor discomfort or is it crippling?? I may be ending my cycle with it and starting future cycles with it but my job is physical so I cant risk using anything thats gonna put me on the sideline..

 

[Voltrader]

I have a high tolerance for pain the only time I have ever suffered crippling PIP was my first couple of injections in the quads.

 

[inkandmuscle]

I have a high tolerance for pain the only time I have ever suffered crippling PIP was my first couple of injections in the quads.

interesting, i just did my first pin ever in my right quad last night.. definately a little PIP but only when Im sitting still, if i walk around a bit i dont notice it. i have a pretty decent pain tolerance but everyone says test e always has minimal PIP

 

[intel]

Both sciroxx's test and Crimson's test have never given me any PIP. Always pain free and I have pinned both via slin needle in my peck without any issues.

 

[inkandmuscle]

Both sciroxx's test and Crimson's test have never given me any PIP. Always pain free and I have pinned both via slin needle in my peck without any issues.

damn.... i doubt I'll ever, ever stick a needle into my chest lol

 

[TheGuy85]

damn.... i doubt I'll ever, ever stick a needle into my chest lol

My rotation is quads, delts, pecs. No Glutes they are terrible to pin. I can't stand it, being twisted around for several minutes with a needle sliding in and out of my ass cheek. Out of those spots delts hurt the worse for me honestly.

All the test prop I have used has been virtually pipless. Even when I hit virgin spots. Quads hurt some first time I pinned them but no where near what other guys describe. Quads are my favorite spot but take longest to pin. Due to the amount of veins and shit I may have to make a couple attempts at finding a good spot. What I have learned is to not force the pin into a spot that gives a lot of resistance or pinches bad other wise it might be unpleasant. Delts hurt after pinning when I push to much oil in. Pecs can hold more oil and rarely ever hurt at all but takes awhile to push the oil in. With quads the oil goes in pretty quick once you find a good spot. I pin every day btw.

I always wonder if my prop is either underdosed or actually test e or test c. Bloods have been good in the past and TT levels come back to beat baseline. I dunno maybe it's the sources I use or I just don't get pip. Now I have been using some good tren ace lately and it seems to leave some more pip than I am used to with tren ace. Stuff I had been using I had to run at higher dose than the tren I am using now though.

 

[TheSpectre]

Anyone add lidocaine to their Prop? IP made 200mg/ml Prop w/ lidocaine and it still hurt a bit, but definitely bearable.

 

[intel]

damn.... i doubt I'll ever, ever stick a needle into my chest lol

Painless as fuck. Seriously no joke. At first it freaked me out (it actually still does because it's my chest for goodness sake) but when everything is super smooth. I even pin 1/2ml of test with 1/2ml of curcumin and it is still smooth. Curcumin will cause a little knot but that goes away in no time. But if you are going to be shirtless split it between the pecks because the oils will make your peck look bigger, especially if you are pinning with curcumin. Like a good big bigger, fuller, and all around better looking.