I was being patient, but didnt check this last week. Was checking every hour before that though
it wasnt much of a sale anyway,lol
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it wasnt much of a sale anyway,lol
AchieveGreatness
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Got my Easter present from astro today! Quick question anyone ever had 'tennis elbow' problems?
blazinshotguns
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^ happens to me when I drop my estrogen to low .
I have, quite a bit in the past actually. It's inflammation from overuse. Ice + ibuprofen usually takes care of it for me. Maybe lay off it for a couple of days while you ice.
AchieveGreatness
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What about cortisone shots? Can't lay off right now
thebeastijwc
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Same if my estro is to low they kill me.
seanchan
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I've has cortisone shots in my wrist, they do it in sessions of 3. Yes they def help the pain. But prolonged use of cortisone shots will weaken your tendons, I would do 1 3-shot treatment of needed, just to try it. Helps tho, I actually put on 5 Lbs thru those cortisone shots haha, prob from the water retention
AchieveGreatness
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Alright I'll see how that goes starting that in the morning
olrocko
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Dude I have non stop tennis elbow issues. I actually got a shot in each one today. I can't seem to shake it no matter what I do. It's a real bitch.
DMSO has been easing my the last 3 days
Yo guys, have you tried using a high dose of
Calcium
Vitamin D
Fish Oil
Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM?
Calcium
Vitamin D
Fish Oil
Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM?
RockStar
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I highly recommend acupuncture for "tennis elbow" also known as tendonitis. I suffered with both my elbows due to lifting, baseball and my job. Since having the acupuncture treatments around 16 years ago I am 100% better. Hope this helps because "tennis elbow" sucks!
Steelbronx
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Glucosamine + chondroitin
High dose fish oil
Cissus quadrangularis
Turmeric curcumin
Currently on all of this right now and joint pain has 100% subsided. Wrist tendonitis has gone away as well. Before my shoulders were so bad I had to completely give up barbell bench, military press, front raises, lateral raises, dips, pec flys, and so on. Shoulders were constantly popping. Had to move onto dumbbell bench, elbows tucked in, not going all the way down, etc. My bicep workout consisted of nothing but hammer curls, traditional curls would wreak havoc on my wrists. Had to drop skullcrushers and french press as well due to elbow pain. Would have to wear wrist wraps for everything. It was hell.
Did some research, hopped on these supps, and never looked back. Don't know what id do without em. If you guys ever have joint/tendon issues, hop on this stack. You wont be disappointed. I assure you.
High dose fish oil
Cissus quadrangularis
Turmeric curcumin
Currently on all of this right now and joint pain has 100% subsided. Wrist tendonitis has gone away as well. Before my shoulders were so bad I had to completely give up barbell bench, military press, front raises, lateral raises, dips, pec flys, and so on. Shoulders were constantly popping. Had to move onto dumbbell bench, elbows tucked in, not going all the way down, etc. My bicep workout consisted of nothing but hammer curls, traditional curls would wreak havoc on my wrists. Had to drop skullcrushers and french press as well due to elbow pain. Would have to wear wrist wraps for everything. It was hell.
Did some research, hopped on these supps, and never looked back. Don't know what id do without em. If you guys ever have joint/tendon issues, hop on this stack. You wont be disappointed. I assure you.
AchieveGreatness
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Thanks steel gonna work on that tomorrow !!
interesting article i came across. i'm sure alot of you of have seen this but it's a good thing to keep in mind to prevent injury and keep those joints, tendons, and connective tissues healthy.
While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.
Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.
Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen syn while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.
Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.
You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.
Deca , Equipoise , Anavar , and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.
While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.
To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.
Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood
Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.
Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.
These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:
Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days
Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.
GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.
Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.
Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you.....
While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.
Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.
Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen syn while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.
Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.
You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.
Deca , Equipoise , Anavar , and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.
While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.
To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.
Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood
Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.
Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.
These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:
Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days
Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.
GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.
Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.
Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you.....
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What doses do you use for those?
Steelbronx
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Glucosamine + chondroitin - 2000mg
Fish oil- 5-6 grams. Depends on the EPA/DHA content of the brand you choose. I personally wouldn't go over 3 grams EPA/DHA in a day.
Cissus- 6 grams. Pretty high dose. Used to be on 3 grams, bumped it up and saw even more improvements. Great for bone density, tendon repair, etc. Also lowers cortisol so thats a plus. Try to get one standardized to a low ketosterone percentage.
Turmeric curcumin- 3 grams. Really good for inflammation. Actually helped with my back pain quite a bit. Has an insane amount of health benefits. Honestly could be debated that turmeric is even more beneficial than fish oil from an overall health perspective. Probably the closest thing to a miracle supplement. I truly feel like it should be a staple in everyones supplement regime. Really an amazing herb.
Pretty expensive stack, but honestly imo its worth every penny.
I had problem 3 months ago, too big too fast, had to take 2 months off the gym and it went away. I feel like it's slowly, coming back but I'm running npp to help with it and it's staying at bay. Two months ago I couldn't do any pulling exercises
windycityamateur
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Tennis elbow? Rub the area that hurts most in a straight pattern, perpendicular to your arm. So if your right arm hurts, rub it with your left hand (use 4 fingers) across the affected area. I swear by this. No shit, my tennis elbow went away in 2-3 weeks. Do it 4 times a day for like 30 seconds per session
Are you sure about this?
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