wrapping up my first "recomp" cycle and bulking cycle design

[lvz]

making this post to maybe have some insight from more experienced users, im on the tail end of my first real recomp cycle and its been nothing but a success, very minor side effects, very manageable, put on A LOT of muscle and lost A LOT of fat to the point random people at the gym ive never spoken to before stop me to ask me what happened in the past month, and people that i do know just go straight to the point and ask what im taking, overall incredibly satisfied with the results, its been nothing but amazing even if its been a bit bumpy on the way (got sold fake gear but thats the whole reason i ended up on meso so maybe it wasnt all bad)

the cycle is as follows:
12 weeks
350mg test p
350mg mast p
175mg tren a //supposed to be 175mg, i overdrew this a lot though cause its the first vial i draw from every injection, so prolly around 200~225mg a week actually
25mg proviron
50mg anavar //6 weeks only
4iu hgh
40mcg t4

now i have ~3 more weeks of this on top of a 10 weeks cruise (250mg test e 2iu hgh, ill also prolly run 200mg mast e on cruise cause i have some laying around as of my last post), but ive been designing my next cycle already and wanna hear some opinions, heres the draft:

12 weeks
500mg test e
600mg equipoise
300mg tren e
25~50mg proviron
50mg anadrol //4 weeks only
4iu hgh
20mcg t4

what do y guys think? is running tren back to back to back (plan on using it next cut again) too much? should i maybe go for deca instead? maybe avoid anadrol and go for something lighter? any opinion is appreciated, wether u agree with me or not im just trying to gather as many as possible to design my next cycle

also if u have any questions about current cycle / effects / whatever u wanna know, feel free to ask

 

[BigDadd7]

Maybe let the next blast be a break from tren and orals for your livers sake? Test and EQ is a fairly potent combo.

 

[adrenalytic]

got sold fake gear

consider it tuition. Welcome to Compound College.

the cycle is as follows:
350mg test p
350mg mast p
175mg tren a //supposed to be 175mg, i overdrew this a lot though cause its the first vial i draw from every injection, so prolly around 200~225mg a week actually
25mg proviron
50mg anavar //6 weeks only
4iu hgh
40mcg t4

now i have ~3 more weeks of this on top of a 10 weeks cruise (250mg test e 2iu hgh, ill also prolly run 200mg mast e on cruise cause i have some laying around as of my last post), but ive been designing my next cycle already and wanna hear some opinions, heres the draft:

500mg test e
600mg equipoise
300mg tren e
25~50mg proviron
50mg anadrol
4iu hgh
20mcg t4

You talk a lot about drugs but I couldn't find anything about your diet, training, sleep, starting weight, bf%, current stats, height, age, lifts...holy fuck I'm tired of thinking of things that actually matter that you could have put.

 

[Liter O' Test]

i dont think you needed caber on 200mg tren ace...

if that cycle worked really well for you just do the same thing again.

 

[lvz]

consider it tuition. Welcome to Compound College.



You talk a lot about drugs but I couldn't find anything about your diet, training, sleep, starting weight, bf%, current stats, height, age, lifts...holy fuck I'm tired of thinking of things that actually matter that you could have put.

im 25, 191cm, started out at about 93kg 15% body fat, currently weighing 97kg 12% body fat (these r from a withings bodyscan scale, so take the bf% with a grain of salt), i train 4 times a week consistently on a push pull legs arms split (have not missed a day at all from ~3 weeks before i even started this cycle) and my loads have been going up consistently even eating in a deficit (not crazy on the bench only managed to go from 100kg 8x -> 110kg 6x, a lot of my other lifts increased by a larger margin notably my squat 90kg 8x -> 160kg 8x, dumbbell shoulder press 60kg 10x -> 100kg 10x and every back exercise lat pulldown 70kg 8x -> 100kg 12x, tbar row 55kg 12x -> 80kg 10x, cable row 60kg 12x -> 85kg 10x, these r some examples but ive been tracking my lifts and have a big ass note on them i could share if yall wanna know more), tren fucks with my appetite a lot and sometimes its hard to stick to my diet but i can manage to hit 210g of protein atleast 90% of the time, which im happy about, i eat a combination of the foods i wrote down in the image attached until i hit protein and about ~2000kcal

i think thats all u wanted to know, lmk if i missed something / what u think i could improve on, rly tryina take this shit seriously and and any help / advice / critique is appreciated

also most of the reason why all this isnt included on my actual profile is cause of the annoying 400 characters limit, i initially wrote a lot of this stuff there just to be met with the "ur post is over 420 characters long" message multiple times, so i just stuck to logging my cycles there

edit: yep i missed sleep actually, very manageable havent experienced any trensomnia or night sweats, i can sleep with 0 issues although that's something i could actually improve on as a lot of the time i stay up and end up sleeping a bit less than what's ideal (~7h every work night, sometimes i fuck it up on the weekend and even sleep 10h but at a shit time, might go to bed at 4am and wake up at 2pm, shit like that i should prolly improve on)

 

[lvz]

i dont think you needed caber on 200mg tren ace...

if that cycle worked really well for you just do the same thing again.

dont rly know why, i also thought i wouldnt need it, felt itchy nipples so i just popped .25 caber twice a week and .5 arimidex eod, everything seems fully gone, already suspended, will update in case symptoms come back

 

[IndividualMan]

good shit. also, stop posting in those weird profile posts, this is wayy easier to read and interact with.

now for feedback
12 weeks- too short?
500mg test e = aight

600mg equipoise
= a little high for 500mg test. long ester for only 12 weeks

300mg tren e
= a little high, especially considering your planned oral use

25~50mg proviron
= why? oral proviron is pretty shit,3-5mg injectable would be significantly better

50mg anadrol //4 weeks only
adrol is fun. you can run it just as a pwo and maybe stretch it to 5 weeks, but I would reconsider using it if you are really into the tren

4iu hgh
great

20mcg t4
do you convert too much t4 into t3? is your thyroid shot?

overall, a little too much of everything. maybe just do high Test (750ish)+ medium/low EQ (300ish), but for longer? you can rotate the anadrol in if you feel like it, and push some leftover tren ace at the end/tren E for the last 8 weeks

 

[lvz]

Maybe let the next blast be a break from tren and orals for your livers sake? Test and EQ is a fairly potent combo.

yeah i was thinking that maybe hammering myself with tren for 3 cycles in a row is a bit much, thats the main reason why i made this post and why i wanna know more experienced opinions

 

[lvz]

good shit. also, stop posting in those weird profile posts, this is wayy easier to read and interact with.

now for feedback
12 weeks- too short?
500mg test e = aight

600mg equipoise
= a little high for 500mg test. long ester for only 12 weeks

300mg tren e
= a little high, especially considering your planned oral use

25~50mg proviron
= why? oral proviron is pretty shit,3-5mg injectable would be significantly better

50mg anadrol //4 weeks only
adrol is fun. you can run it just as a pwo and maybe stretch it to 5 weeks, but I would reconsider using it if you are really into the tren

4iu hgh
great

20mcg t4
do you convert too much t4 into t3? is your thyroid shot?

overall, a little too much of everything. maybe just do high Test (750ish)+ medium/low EQ (300ish), but for longer? you can rotate the anadrol in if you feel like it, and push some leftover tren ace at the end/tren E for the last 8 weeks

oh the profile posts r for myself mainly to keep track of what i do / did / felt at the time, for any interaction i will always make a post like this not rly expecting anyone to read / interact with my profile posts really

reading ur feedback i think the main consensus here is to just drop the tren, which is prolly a good idea, u also say 12 weeks is too short, how long do u think i should run a cycle like this (most likely without the tren, test eq only maybe test eq deca) for?

the proviron is there cause it makes sex amazing tbh no other reason if i gotta be completely honest with u lmao, and t4 idt i need at all, im using it as an additional fat burner on my cut and have an absolute boatload laying around

 

[IndividualMan]

how long do u think i should run a cycle like this

24-32 weeks, you can gain nicely for 24-26 weeks, do a small cut/recomp with some fun orals towards the end, and look massive & sick.

500-300, 600-300, 750-350, something around those dosages should be fine. look into enalapril or other stuff to decrease RBC, so that your HCT does not go sky high on those dosages. and BP meds, Cilnidipine & Telmisartan, all that stuff to keep BP down & your kidneys alive.

the proviron is there cause it makes sex amazing

fair, I myself love me some proviron, just not tablets.
Inj Proviron5mg/ml & TNE50mg/ml & exemestane mix is great for that purpose too (or so i have heard )