what a ripoff

[graybass]

I was just on a HRT web site, and they want like $1500.00 for 3 10ml vials of test cyp!!! I'm not kiddin!!! I almost wet my pants( it was 10ml 200mg cyp) Is that some balls or what!!!!!!!!! People outside of BB don't know any better and are paying that!!! I'm in the wrong business, I want to be a fat disgusting doctor that doesn't workout, so I can fuck the public in the ass, Let me know the next time you see a doctor in great shape. I fucking hate them!!! I'll die first before I go to a regular MD. Sports doctors are little different I'll give you that. The only time I go, is if I can tell them whats wrong, and what to do about it because I can't legally practice medicine.

Holy shit what a business!!!
sorry to rant like a madman, but I'm tired of fat know nothings making all the money...One of the Gyms I work out of is a 5 million dollar gym and the owner does not even workout. He made the mistake of showing me the books, and he is netting 100,000.00 a month in profit!!! He doesn't know a curl from a bench.

All well!!! I need some HRT clients
graybass

 

[frank1234]

I did ssearch my self anf the best price I could get was $ 90 for a 10 cc
of Test Cyp and you could decline the $$$$ lab test dr test. They also sold Deca for $ 120 to $ 140 I think. Totally legal. I suggest the classified and check references and you can sut the above prices in 1/2.

 

[hizhonor]

I did ssearch my self anf the best price I could get was $ 90 for a 10 cc
of Test Cyp and you could decline the $$$$ lab test dr test. They also sold Deca for $ 120 to $ 140 I think. Totally legal. I suggest the classified and check references and you can sut the above prices in 1/2.

$140 for 10ml legal deca! Sounds good to me.

 

[Bob Smith]

Grey, isnt the purpose of ANY business to make a profit? Yes. Dont fault the gym owner for running a very profitable enterprise. Though Id be interested to see a $100k/mo profit on a gym. Are you sure it was profit and not gross revenue? How many members are there and whats the normal monthly fee?

Sorry to hijack the thread.

 

[SWALE]

I seriously doubt these guys are administerng apprpriate HRT. Also, it probably is not being run by a real doctor; rather is a "clearing house" that hires docs in a given state to run the physical (doctors who have absolutle no idea how to administer HRT), to get around the law. I have a lot of patients who came to me from online "clinics" like these, and they were really messed up hormonally from their lame, profit-driven "medical advice".

And Deca has absolutely no place in legitimate HRT.

I would guess they are dispensing compounded meds, because the profit margin is so very high with them.

IMPO, operations such as these are exchanging the health of their "patients" for their bank accounts. They also make it that much harder for those of us who are working to establish TRT within the conventional medical community.

Because of the VERY legitimate issues you bring up, I decided from the start to not make a single penny from the meds I dispense. Never have, never will. That way, no one could ever say I do this in order to sell drugs.

And BTW, this HRT doc could give most a run for their money in the gym. I regularly squat 12 or more deep ones with 315# (as the LAST set of my leg workout--remember, I am natural), have 18" arms, and a six pack (more or less). You make an excellent point in that doctors should LIVE what they preach!

I do not consider your post a "rant". You are merely expressing common issues/complaints.

 

[kwik98gt]

those docs arent the only ones ripping people off. I was looking on a Walgreens website once-and they wanted $1400 for 100 50mg tabs of Unimed anadrol! I dont see how the insurance Co's stand for that shit. Whaddya do if you have a legit medical need for oxymethalone and you dont have insurance?

 

[graybass]

More sauce for the Goose

Just a little more info. I did not mean to infer the all Md's are evil, just most.
A much larger problem is the medical comunities lack of knowledge in the general care of the human body. Just look at this country, I'm not sure of the exact #, but approx. 60% of America is a minimum of 30lb's overweight!!!
There must be something wrong with our general health care and knowledge of caring for our bodies in this country. Obesity is one of our biggest problems. I'm sorry but this seems insane to a BB. and trainer/nutrictionist like my self.
Strength training and good cardio will prevent 90% of the diseases that we contact later in life. (do the research, adult onset Diabetes is caused by the american diet, where the fuck are the doctors now!!!Just to name one!)
The second people in the general public find something that works with muscle building or fat loss the goverment steps in and makes it a controled item.
I'm so sick of this shit!
Here's one more. I have about 6 doctors I train so I talked one in to writing me a script for Clomid. I figured what could it cost? with my doctor Prescribing it and all. So off I go to my local Pharm to pick it up. $500.00 for 50 pills!!! I'm sure you guys know what clomid goes for
Just todays RANT!!!!
That Older and Wiser Graybass

 

[Bob Smith]

GB, the problem of obesity isnt the docs fault. Its your fat neighbors, its my family's, its everyone's. The docs cant feed every patient 2-6x per day and know exactly what that person eats. America has become, IMO, so pussified and irresponsible that it disgusts me!! Fat ass people sued McDonalds, are suing some other food joint now, blaming everything on something being "addictive" instead of just admitting that they are a fat f*ck! Is it my docs fault that Im at 220 right now? No, its mine from not working out for a while and eating like crap. Im not trying to get on the class action suit against Burger King for making Whoppers. I put the food in my mouth, I chose not to workout for 2 months, I was a lazy ass, and now I'm fat (but its coming off now)!

People are always making excuses now as to why something is the way it is. If youre fat, its your own f'ing fault! Its not McDonalds or Krispy Kreme. Its not your family, nor is it a "tyroid" problem. Its because you (a general "you") is a fat f*ck that cant put there fork down or limit your lunch to 3 cheeseburgers instead of 5 Big Macs, supersized fries, and a Coke. With 2 cherry pies for dessert. I really have no pity for obese people. It is a choice they make to be a fat load of crap. Just like its a choice that I have cleaned up my eating, amd working out, and now seeing positive results. That was a choice I made because I knew that my physical condition is 100% under my control and I accept responsibility for that.

 

[SWALE]

BS--Well said.

If there is somethng in your life you do not like, and you want someone to blame, just look in a mirror.

 

[graybass]

Gag me with a cheeseburger

I haven't checked this thread in awhile, rereading my posts I realized that I can't speel for shit. (spell) LOL, I'm a certified nutritionist and I spelled nutritionist wrong. What a dumb shit!, sorry.
Anyway, Bob well said, but my point is the system has failed us. No one tells us as children, that all the adds for food lie to us, no tries to tell us we MUST do some from of intense exercize. The body does not come with a owners manual!!
More doctors should practice Health Maintenence (spelled wrong?) I gota put that dictionary by the computer! Instead they are taught how to find damage, and how to repair it! Doctors never taught me weights were for strength, and cardio was for heart and lung health, And that the body must do these things or die a horrible death from cancer, heart disease, diabetes, hyper tension, OBESITY, etc.
No tells us FAT, white flower, grease, oil, heavy starch, processed foods, deep frying, etc,etc,etc,etc, will KILL us!!!, Long live big business, death to the individual!!!
Just todays Rant graybass

 

[finafreak]

I was just on a HRT web site, and they want like $1500.00 for 3 10ml vials of test cyp!!! I'm not kiddin!!! I almost wet my pants( it was 10ml 200mg cyp) Is that some balls or what!!!!!!!!! People outside of BB don't know any better and are paying that!!! I'm in the wrong business, I want to be a fat disgusting doctor that doesn't workout, so I can fuck the public in the ass, Let me know the next time you see a doctor in great shape. I fucking hate them!!! I'll die first before I go to a regular MD. Sports doctors are little different I'll give you that. The only time I go, is if I can tell them whats wrong, and what to do about it because I can't legally practice medicine.

Holy shit what a business!!!
sorry to rant like a madman, but I'm tired of fat know nothings making all the money...One of the Gyms I work out of is a 5 million dollar gym and the owner does not even workout. He made the mistake of showing me the books, and he is netting 100,000.00 a month in profit!!! He doesn't know a curl from a bench.

All well!!! I need some HRT clients
graybass

Now those are the people that need to get arrested,for having outrageous prices,.Rather than ur usual dealer trying to make a buck.



finafreak

 

[Bob Smith]

Now those are the people that need to get arrested,for having outrageous prices,.Rather than ur usual dealer trying to make a buck.



finafreak

Factor in R&D, liability insurance, marketing, paying their sales force, production, and so on. There is a very real reason why prescription drugs are so stinkin expensive.

 

[SWALE]

I agree with you, finafreak. It costs about $10 to put test cyp in a bottle, so some of these guys are making a 5,000% profit. And worse, they prescribe at dosages which are guaranteed to take you above the top of normal range, which is NOT TRT! I just threw an unscrupulous individual off one of my other TRT Forums for trying to advertise for his rip-off online so-called "HRT Clinic". Peope like him make me sick to my stomach, as they make the hill that much steeper for those of us who are truly committed to providing appropriate TRT for men.

 

[finafreak]

Caffeine

I agree with you, finafreak. It costs about $10 to put test cyp in a bottle, so some of these guys are making a 5,000% profit. And worse, they prescribe at dosages which are guaranteed to take you above the top of normal range, which is NOT TRT! I just threw an unscrupulous individual off one of my other TRT Forums for trying to advertise for his rip-off online so-called "HRT Clinic". Peope like him make me sick to my stomach, as they make the hill that much steeper for those of us who are truly committed to providing appropriate TRT for men.

Swale, I seen some websites selling serostim for about 1,500 a kit. Can you imagine paying that much? Yeah your wright,it does make you sick. When this greedy bastards are ripping people off... When consumers are just trying to feel young again. It's almost like our American prescriptions,. If they can't get your dollar,they surely don't want any other country's getting any of it either,and that's when the law gets involved. Its a democracy



finafreak

 

[Starkraven]

Sorry to bring this from the dead but i agree with graybass. its sickening what the govt does. and the true fucking ripoffs. just like you said its long live big business, death to the individual. it just sucks. i want out of the USA.

Just a little more info. I did not mean to infer the all Md's are evil, just most.
A much larger problem is the medical comunities lack of knowledge in the general care of the human body. Just look at this country, I'm not sure of the exact #, but approx. 60% of America is a minimum of 30lb's overweight!!!
There must be something wrong with our general health care and knowledge of caring for our bodies in this country. Obesity is one of our biggest problems. I'm sorry but this seems insane to a BB. and trainer/nutrictionist like my self.
Strength training and good cardio will prevent 90% of the diseases that we contact later in life. (do the research, adult onset Diabetes is caused by the american diet, where the fuck are the doctors now!!!Just to name one!)
The second people in the general public find something that works with muscle building or fat loss the goverment steps in and makes it a controled item.
I'm so sick of this shit!
Here's one more. I have about 6 doctors I train so I talked one in to writing me a script for Clomid. I figured what could it cost? with my doctor Prescribing it and all. So off I go to my local Pharm to pick it up. $500.00 for 50 pills!!! I'm sure you guys know what clomid goes for
Just todays RANT!!!!
That Older and Wiser Graybass

 

[SWALE]

Maybe this has something to do with the fact I am a DO, not an MD.

 

[dustoff1]

Maybe this has something to do with the fact I am a DO, not an MD.

I am beginning to think all legitimate sources are a rip off... I am going UG for my supplies...

 

[SWALE]

I do not think anyone out there could, with a straight face, call me "a ripoff".