The "Middle Eastern" effect on BB'ing

[TriednTestedVet]

Bodybuilding is as much mental as it is physical.

If you can be stress free because someone else is footing the bill for everything and all you have to do is eat, sleep, train and grow the body is going to flourish under a highly anabolic state.

With all the stress that most have (kids, bills, work) we highly limit our potential.

I lived in Thailand (back in the day) for the specific purpose of training like a Prince instead of a pauper because of the dollar value.

It was one of the best growing periods for me and I was still footing the bill!

However, I had a maid, a couple of girlfriends (cook, clean...etc) and even hired a kid to load and unload my weights on leg days at the gym.

The food was cheap, the gear was all legit (learned allot while out there) and all I did was eat, sleep, train and grow!

If you are not tied down by any thing and you are over 21yrs of age...you have to check out a country like Thailand for a while so you can do the same as those in Dubai.

Much cheaper and you don't have to convert to anything you don't want to.

 

[DeathKnight]

yeah roelly and victor both exploded out there

Google
Sajad Gharibi
iranian powerlifter
385 but not cut. Powerlifter body.

jesus christ

 

[Groundfighter]

Something in that fresh desert air.

 

[Savagesteve]

If I'm not mistaken gear isn't legal there? An like was mentioned in sure someone is fitting the bill as they're training in Kuwait? Kuwait is a rich country and I'm sure they just train, eat, and sleep.

 

[_Prometheus]

How about the Korean BBers?
Theyre MASSIVE as of late

 

[Redrum42]

My longtime girlfriend's family lives in Kuwait. From what I've heard I think it's mostly just the environment. Ripped dudes are a dime a dozen there, really pushes you. Whereas here in the USA people think I'm some sort of elite for being a lean 210lb and having a 1000lb big 3 total, which imho, is barely one step up from DYEL. If everyone around you is huge makes you more ambitious to compete

Also from what I've heard supplements at outrageously expensive there (2-3x price of USA for protein powder etc). Can't comment on AAS as obviously her fam doesn't dabble.

Also guys like Victor Martinez, roelly, etc go there and they don't have friends and social life, so all they do is lift, eat, sleep, no distractions, no stress. At that elite level I would imagine even 5% less stress and 5% more dedicated lifestyle goes a long way.

 

[jaymaximus]

My longtime girlfriend's family lives in Kuwait. From what I've heard I think it's mostly just the environment. Ripped dudes are a dime a dozen there, really pushes you. Whereas here in the USA people think I'm some sort of elite for being a lean 210lb and having a 1000lb big 3 total, which imho, is barely one step up from DYEL. If everyone around you is huge makes you more ambitious to compete

Also from what I've heard supplements at outrageously expensive there (2-3x price of USA for protein powder etc). Can't comment on AAS as obviously her fam doesn't dabble.

Also guys like Victor Martinez, roelly, etc go there and they don't have friends and social life, so all they do is lift, eat, sleep, no distractions, no stress. At that elite level I would imagine even 5% less stress and 5% more dedicated lifestyle goes a long way.

Also many men in the middle east believe women are for procreation, men are for fun. So the rich men over there will bankroll and young, nubile, hard, striated, peak male specimen for an odd favor here or there


By favor I mean man on man butt sex, maybe some docking...

 

[grey]

Also many men in the middle east believe women are for procreation, men are for fun.

My experience suggest that it is *most* men of the region rather than simply *many*.

 

[master.on]

Maybe their big secret is $2000+ worth of Follistatin/myostatin antibodies A DAY?
Probably not far fetched

Study shows Myostatin propeptide DOES suppress myostatin activity in fish

Myostatin inhibitory region of fish (Paralichthys olivaceus) myostatin-1 propeptide.
[Sang Beum Lee, Jeong Hwan Kim, Deuk-Hee Jin, Hyung-Joo Jin, Yong Soo Kim]
PMID 26827850
Abstract
Myostatin (MSTN) is a potent negative regulator of skeletal muscle growth, and its activity is suppressed by MSTN propeptide (MSTNpro), the N-terminal part of MSTN precursor cleaved during post-translational MSTN processing. The current study examined which region of flatfish (Paralichthys olivaceus) MSTN-1 propeptide (MSTN1pro) is critical for MSTN inhibition. Six different truncated forms of MSTN1pro containing N-terminal maltose binding protein (MBP) as a fusion partner were expressed in Escherichia coli, and partially purified by an affinity chromatography for MSTN-inhibitory activity examination. Peptides covering different regions of flatfish MSTN1pro were also synthesized for MSTN-inhibitory activity examination. A MBP-fused MSTN1pro region consisting of residues 45-100 had the same MSTN-inhibitory potency as the full sequence flatfish MSTN1pro (residues 23-265), indicating that the region of flatfish MSTN1pro consisting of residues 45-100 is sufficient to maintain the full MSTN-inhibitory capacity. A MBP-fused MSTN1pro region consisting of residues 45-80 (Pro45-80) also showed MSTN-inhibitory activity with a lower potency, and the Pro45-80 demonstrated its MSTN binding capacity in a pull-down assay, indicating that the MSTN-inhibitory capacity of Pro45-80 is due to its binding to MSTN. Flatfish MSTN1pro synthetic peptides covering residues 45-65, 45-70, and 45-80 demonstrated MSTN-inhibitory activities, but not the synthetic peptide covering residues 45-54, indicating that residues 45-65 of flatfish MSTN1pro are essential for MSTN inhibition. In conclusion, current study show that like the mammalian MSTNpro, the MSTN-inhibitory region of flatfish MSTN1pro resides near its N-terminus, and imply that smaller sizes of MSTNpro can be effectively used in various applications designed for MSTN inhibition.
Myostatin inhibitory region of fish (Paralichthys olivaceus) myostatin-1 propeptide. | Sigma-Aldrich

real Recombinant Follistatin
20 micrograms $264.50
Follistatin human SRP3045

Follistatin 300 human
25 micrograms $480.50
Follistatin 300 human F1175

ANTI-MYOSTATIN (GDF8)(N-TERMINAL) antibody produced in rabbit
400 microliters $336.50
ANTI-MYOSTATIN (GDF8)(N-TERMINAL) antibody produced in rabbit SAB1305392

Anti-Myostatin Antibody, Near CT
100 micrograms $226
Anti-Myostatin Antibody, Near CT AB3239I

Anti-MSTN (191-205) antibody produced in rabbit
200 microliters $363
Anti-MSTN (191-205) antibody produced in rabbit M3448

Monoclonal Anti-MSTN antibody produced in mouse
100 microliters $368
Monoclonal Anti-MSTN antibody produced in mouse SAB5300419

Follistatin works.They have to take immune inhibition drugs stacked with it and they do.The stack keeps the body from destroying the folli..its a bit freaky but we are talking ifbb in 2016 here.

Link to immune suppressors being needed?

Also many men in the middle east believe women are for procreation, men are for fun. So the rich men over there will bankroll and young, nubile, hard, striated, peak male specimen for an odd favor here or there


By favor I mean man on man butt sex, maybe some docking...

My experience suggest that it is *most* men of the region rather than simply *many*.

Ugh, so I've heard
but some still manage to get sponsorships just for national pride sake.


If this is their big secret indeed
tell @Millard Baker to get thinkfollistatin.com domain
as thinksteroids is already obsolete.

 

[Mayne]

Think it has to do with follistatin administration as an AAV which would probably need immune suppression to work optimally in human?

 

[Kakarot]

Also many men in the middle east believe women are for procreation, men are for fun. So the rich men over there will bankroll and young, nubile, hard, striated, peak male specimen for an odd favor here or there


By favor I mean man on man butt sex, maybe some docking...

Ugh why the fuck did I have to Google docking!

 

[Demondosage]

Also many men in the middle east believe women are for procreation, men are for fun. So the rich men over there will bankroll and young, nubile, hard, striated, peak male specimen for an odd favor here or there


By favor I mean man on man butt sex, maybe some docking...

Unfortunately this is probably true. Nobody "sponsors" everyone just for the hell of it and "nation pride". It's no different than gay doctors sponsoring the bodybuilders of the 70's. They let them live with them, gave them cars to drive, and helped pay for them to do nothing but eat, sleep, lift and of course sexual favors on the daily.

 

[master.on]

Think it has to do with follistatin administration as an AAV which would probably need immune suppression to work optimally in human?

Who knows
We urgently need an follistatin vs muscle study:

1 Create a fundraising platform
to avoid red flags and legal issues it should say
"intended to trigger further research on muscular dystrophy treatments"
Never ever mention bodybuilding

2 Get at least 2 "volunteers"

3 All of them get injections, preferably several times a day
One (or half the volunteers) unknowingly gets Follistatin, the other one gets placebo (bac water)
no steroids, gh or slin are allowed.

4 They all should lift to failure for at least 2 months
along with a high protein, moderate to high carb diet.

5 Compare to see if the guy on Follistatin got VISIBLY more jacked than the placebo one.

6 Post results.

 

[Frozen]

@Wunderpus dave palumbo interviewed b curry and he talked about how all they do is eat sleep and train 3 times a day. Plus I think real igf might be a factor

 

[GymRat79]

Its not just in the middle east. You have enough money as a pro athlete you can get anything you want from sports doctors. Some will lose their license over it possibly but many just continue to conduct business as usual. That is the benefit of being in pro sports.

Lets say Lebron James decided to retire from basketball and take up bodybuilding. He has great genetics and would be able to look like an IFBB pro within 2-3 years with the right drugs and training.