The "Middle Eastern" effect on BB'ing

[Wunderpus]

Has anyone else noticed that absolute freaks are coming out of the Middle East lately, and anyone who goes there to train comes back looking fucking insane? I'd like to hear some thoughts on this, particularly from @Millard Baker ! Do you think they have access to real pharma grade myostatin inhibitors? I was thinking about this after seeing Victor Martinez lately, I know he's been training in Kuwait... What gives? Sure, they have access to real primo, test enan., etc... But so do we. What's the difference, if any, that's going on over there?? I'm about to convert to Islam and head on over Chris Aceto style.

Check out a few of these freaks rolling outta the Middle East:

Ramy

Roelly

 

[bdub22]

Damn Roelly is fucking huge compared to how he looked in generation iron. I would be interested in knowing to. They got to have access to something haha

 

[Wunderpus]

Damn Roelly is fucking huge compared to how he looked in generation iron. I would be interested in knowing to. They got to have access to something haha

Victor Martinez looks crazier than ever too!

 

[bdub22]

Victor Martinez looks crazier than ever too!

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Fuck! He does look huge. Ya i would like to find out what there using. Me personally would never want to be that big but its still crazy. Ive been reading about myostatin and its pretty interesting.

 

[grey]

What's the difference, if any, that's going on over there??

I have the feeling that it is not just that gear is legal there, but that there are health care professionals overseeing them and administering a whole array of things with an eye towards jacking up the results instead of harm prevention.

I could be wrong for these areas but I know that was the case in Iraq even post-war... a routine doctor sideline for cash was catering to rich males doing bodybuilding. Makes a difference when you don't have to hide it and your doctor is actively tweaking the dosing etc for better performance.

Likely also why so many die so young.

 

[Wunderpus]

I have the feeling that it is not just that gear is legal there, but that there are health care professionals overseeing them and administering a whole array of things with an eye towards jacking up the results instead of harm prevention.

I could be wrong for these areas but I know that was the case in Iraq even post-war... a routine doctor sideline for cash was catering to rich males doing bodybuilding. Makes a difference when you don't have to hide it and your doctor is actively tweaking the dosing etc for better performance.

Likely also why so many die so young.

I wonder if the sheikh's somehow get involved and sponsor/pay for them? Most of these guys can't afford this sort of shit.... First it was buying $10mm camels, now it's supporting Big Ramy

 

[grey]

I wonder if the sheikh's somehow get involved and sponsor/pay for them?

From what I saw, yes... prestige thing. Same mindset behind ISIS "sponsoring" The Butcher... "I have big guys in my tribe so my dick is bigger by proxy!"

 

[Wunderpus]

From what I saw, yes... prestige thing. Same mindset behind ISIS "sponsoring" The Butcher... "I have big guys in my tribe so my dick is bigger by proxy!"

Makes sense to me. Maybe a sheikh wants to sponsor me? Funny Chris Aceto started training all Islamic guys over there, then magically became a muslim, even though he's a white dude from the east coast.... LOL. Wonder how "muslim" he really is, or if it's just a good marketing plan?

 

[Trapmonster]

Dudes are freaky huge

 

[dnoyez]

These guys are being housed for free and also eat for free.(EAT FOR FREE).

Myostatin Inhibitors and peptides dont come cheap either.

Basically these guys are being set up with a better quality of life.Better quality better results.Think back arnold and papa wieder making life peaches while he could focus and dial it in.

 

[dnoyez]

Victor Martinez looks crazier than ever too!

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This guy here has faced baby moma problems ,money issues and completly crashing in jail.Would be great to see him get in the peak he is capable of one good time.

 

[Tmisatix]

IMO

Its the legit pharmacy grade IGF 1, were talking increlex basically.

 

[Wunderpus]

IMO

Its the legit pharmacy grade IGF 1, were talking increlex basically.

What do you think that would have to offer above high doses of GH?

Also, I think myostatin inhibitors, like true follistatin, are likely. They also have the luxury of training like Arnold, eat, sleep, train, repeat.

 

[Tmisatix]

What do you think that would have to offer above high doses of GH?

Also, I think myostatin inhibitors, like true follistatin, are likely. They also have the luxury of training like Arnold, eat, sleep, train, repeat.

Possibly, but myostatin inhibitors are someone unknown but definitely a possibility.

Well IGF is much stronger than HGH since it's basically the muscle building effect and fat burn directly. Hgh once reaching the pituitary is converted to igf... Taking igf bypasses this product so it's gonna be potent.

 

[Wunderpus]

Possibly, but myostatin inhibitors are someone unknown but definitely a possibility.

Well IGF is much stronger than HGH since it's basically the muscle building effect and fat burn directly. Hgh once reaching the pituitary is converted to igf... Taking igf bypasses this product so it's gonna be potent.

I understand how GH-> igf-1. I'm just not sure there is a huge benefit to that over just taking more GH.

 

[Tmisatix]

I understand how GH-> igf-1. I'm just not sure there is a huge benefit to that over just taking more GH.

Hmm I honestly would not know because that makes sense too.

Do you think real myostatin inhibitors exist ? I've read that follistatin doesn't really work like we would want.

 

[dnoyez]

Follistatin works.They have to take immune inhibition drugs stacked with it and they do.The stack keeps the body from destroying the folli..its a bit freaky but we are talking ifbb in 2016 here.

 

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[Skull]

Has anyone else noticed that absolute freaks are coming out of the Middle East lately, and anyone who goes there to train comes back looking fucking insane? I'd like to hear some thoughts on this, particularly from @Millard Baker ! Do you think they have access to real pharma grade myostatin inhibitors? I was thinking about this after seeing Victor Martinez lately, I know he's been training in Kuwait... What gives? Sure, they have access to real primo, test enan., etc... But so do we. What's the difference, if any, that's going on over there?? I'm about to convert to Islam and head on over Chris Aceto style.

Check out a few of these freaks rolling outta the Middle East:

Ramy

Roelly

Damn Roelly is fucking huge compared to how he looked in generation iron. I would be interested in knowing to. They got to have access to something haha

Id say its cuz they are taking in lots mote of everything compared to what they use to. Food, Aas, Slin, an Hgh. I would be thrilled to hear that they have actually found something new to help build mass an cut at the same time......Wait have they @Wunderpus lol???? Do they have a myostatin product iur on the shelf yet??? Guess I need to do more studying hahaha.....

 

[Wunderpus]

Id say its cuz they are taking in lots mote of everything compared to what they use to. Food, Aas, Slin, an Hgh. I would be thrilled to hear that they have actually found something new to help build mass an cut at the same time......Wait have they @Wunderpus lol???? Do they have a myostatin product iur on the shelf yet??? Guess I need to do more studying hahaha.....

Allegedly it's available...