Test e - Dbol first cycle!

[Bookashade]

Hi i am 21 and i want to start a cycle that looks like:

week 1-12 test e 500mg a week
week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED

For PCT i'm never sure it kinda confuses me after a while when i'm looking things up on forums wiki etc.. I would do Nolva at week 14 40mg ED first two weeks, followed by 2 weeks 20mg ED

Started lifting when i was 15-16 years 6.1 feet tall and 143 pounds very skinny typical ectomorph.. now at age 21 i'm 195 pounds in those 5- 6 years training i did quit some times for a month or two a couple of times partying etc.. But i made good gains my bf is around 16%. I'm stil 6.1 feet.

So now i want to get real serious and make some good gains, my goal would be to gain lean muscle and strength without gaining to much bf, my diet is prety simpel but works very well for me oatmeal in the morning with pro shake , whole bread with chicken, rice with fish, pasta and chicken, steak, vegetables .. spreaded in 6-7 meals a day and i ussually drink around 2-3 shakes morning, after training and going to get some casein protein before bed. and lots of water.

Would like some advice specially on my PCT as i really don't want to get gyno.
Thanks for your time, and sorry for my english =)

 

[Donzi]

Being ur 1st cycle Id have Nolva on hand in case ur sensitive. PCT varies greatly, 4 me HCG and Clomid work best.

 

[Bookashade]

Ok so i should drop the nolva for pct and just keep in at hand just in case for gyno?
What should my pct for clomid and hcg look like then? starting 2 weeks after lest injection of test e i assume

 

[Donzi]

if ur only runnin a few bottles of test Hcg 2 wk prior 2 last & clomid will b more than good. HCG is wide debate. Me I dont waste $ or product. Mix ur 5000iu then I hit 1500iu 1st. then ev 4 days cut down until gone. Clomid seems 2 b a bit more uniform in thought. @300 day 1. 150 day 2. 100 - 3. then 50 ED varied on length. . And yea being fresh 2 test u really have no idea what 2 expect. Make the most of it. Sleep. Eat. Train & try not 2 party.

 

[Bookashade]

Yeah i won't drink alcohol or go partying that's for sure and i got plenty of time now to focus on training and diet

 

[fitness-equipment-online]

Hi, this is a good cycle but i suggest you to buy a pack of Nolvadex or Clomid.

 

[steroidsfax]

Ok so i should drop the nolva for pct and just keep in at hand just in case for gyno?
What should my pct for clomid and hcg look like then? starting 2 weeks after lest injection of test e i assume

Bro. He is only telling you what works best for him. He even said that. Don't just immediately adopt his PCT. You will get more replies.

IMO 21 is too early. I know I am not your mommy, just remember, you could still get mega gains at your age/size even if the only "gear" was food.

Sides from Clomid can be too much for some users...

Many endocrinologists Dr. Scally included recommend a PCT of Clomid AND Nolva. Since you are afraid of gyno, and plan to have the Nolva on hand during your cycle, why not then use it in combination with Clomid during PCT?

If you start to get unbearable sides, lower the dose and take it for a longer period.

Hcg is a deep topic. Some dont use it some swear by it. Most Dr's swear by it, and I side with him. Most recommend much more than 5000iu as well. Please do some reading on Hcg, it is an integral part of keeping your gains.

 

[Bookashade]

Thank you for the reply's guys, i still didn't do it trying to get more gains and get my bf% down, atm i'm at 13 so things are going well and a little bit more weight, as for the gear, i think i'm going to wait for a little longer and see what i can make more.
Thanks