Religious Right in Arizona Cheers Bill Allowing Businesses to Refuse to Serve Gays

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In New Mexico, a photographer declined to take pictures of a lesbian couple’s commitment ceremony. In Washington State, a florist would not provide flowers for a same-sex wedding. And in Colorado, a baker refused to make a cake for a party celebrating the wedding of two men.

The business owners cited religious beliefs in declining to provide services celebrating same-sex relationships. And in each case, they were sued.

Now, as states around the nation weigh how to balance the rights of same-sex couples with those of conservative religious business owners, Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona must decide whether to sign legislation that would allow business owners to cite religious beliefs as a legal justification for denying service to same-sex couples.

The legislation, approved by lawmakers on Thursday, immediately attracted national attention, with conservative religious groups welcoming it as a necessary form of protection for objectors to same-sex marriage, and gay rights groups denouncing it as a license for discrimination. The measure comes at a time when the courts are grappling with how to define the religious rights of private businesses: The Supreme Court is to hear two cases next month in which businesses are seeking exemptions from providing insurance coverage for contraception to their employees, citing the religious beliefs of the companies’ owners.

“In America, people should be free to live and work according to their faith, and the government shouldn’t be able to tell us we can’t do that,” said Joseph E. La Rue, the legal counsel at Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian legal organization based in Scottsdale, Ariz., that advocates religious liberty and supports the measure passed by the State Legislature. “Faith shouldn’t be something we have to leave inside our house.”

But civil libertarians and gay rights advocates say there is a difference between protections for clergy and houses of worship that do not want to participate in same-sex marriage and the obligations of business owners that serve the general public.

“Religious freedom is a fundamental right, but it’s not a blank check to harm others or impose our faith on our neighbors,” said Daniel Mach, who directs a program on freedom of religion and belief for the American Civil Liberties Union, which opposes the Arizona legislation. “Over the years, we as a nation have rejected efforts to invoke religion to justify discrimination in the marketplace, and there’s no reason to turn back the clock now.”

Ms. Brewer, who has taken no public position on the legislation that will reach her desk next week, is a Republican whose tenure has been punctuated by controversy and political discord over a tough measure on illegal immigrants, which was denounced from the left, and a Medicaid expansion, which was criticized by the right.

Last year she vetoed a similar religious freedom bill, arguing that it was a distraction from priorities lawmakers had yet to address, including the state budget. And there are similar circumstances this year, as legislators have yet to act on a package of proposed changes to the state’s child welfare system, which has been plagued by a slow response to complaints of abuse and neglect.

Chuck Coughlin, a public affairs consultant who led Ms. Brewer’s transition team after she was elected governor in 2009 and has remained a close ally, said he was doubtful that she would sign the bill into law, saying, “We already have laws to sufficiently protect people’s religion freedoms in this country, and this bill could actually empower people to discriminate.”

The bill comes at an awkward time for Ms. Brewer, who has been eager to move beyond controversy in her last year in office (term limits prevent her from running for re-election.)

She has tried to focus on revitalizing the state’s economy, which is struggling in spite of a rebound of the housing market. The state, which was boycotted by some over the immigration measure, is preparing to host next year’s Super Bowl, and some residents worry that the religious freedom measure could again spur a backlash.

In a letter to Ms. Brewer on Friday, Gonzalo A. de la Melena Jr., president and chief executive of the Arizona Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, said the bill, if it becomes law, would “ultimately have the effect of casting Arizona in a negative light that stands to damage our reputation nationwide and globally, and significantly harm our fiscal future.”

It was just one in a chorus of pleas that the governor to veto the legislation.

“It sounds like it’s opening the door to hate and bigotry of all stripes,” said Rocco DiGrazia, a Tucson pizzeria owner, who on Friday attracted national attention via social media because he had posted signs on the restaurant’s doors declaring, “We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Arizona Legislators.”

“I make dinner for a living — I’m not a social activist,” Mr. DiGrazia said in a telephone interview. “But I do have a lot of gay customers and employees, and why are you trying to alienate these people?”

But supporters of the legislation said they would also work hard to persuade Ms. Brewer to sign the measure, in part by disputing much of the criticism it has faced.

Most states where same-sex marriage is legal have exemptions for religious organizations, but not for private businesses or individuals, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. The Arizona measure comes as multiple states are considering such exemptions, with considerable controversy. In Tennessee, the legislature is considering an exemption for wedding vendors; in Kansas, a similar measure was set aside when conservative senators raised concerns about discrimination. In Oregon, opponents of same-sex marriage are seeking to place an initiative on this year’s ballot that would allow individuals or businesses to opt out of participating in same-sex wedding ceremonies.

Supporters and opponents of the Arizona legislation do not agree on its potential impact. The supporters say it would simply tweak an existing religious freedom law in Arizona to make it clear that private individuals can use religious freedom as a defense in civil litigation; the opponents say it would allow business owners to discriminate against anyone they do not like, citing religious freedom.

“There is significant fear it will undermine local nondiscrimination laws,” said Sarah Warbelow, the state legislative director for the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights advocacy organization. “This is not about the freedom of individuals to practice their religion, this is about a license to discriminate against individuals.”

But Josh Kredit, legal counsel of the Center for Arizona Policy, a conservative group that supported the bill, said that Arizona has for years had a religious freedom law that has not been used to justify discrimination, and that the changes to that law made by the new measure are “vitally needed to ensure that in America people are free to live and work according to their faith.”

“Arizona should be known as a state that welcomes people of faith and protects them,” he said. “These are intentional, purposeful distractions to try to kill this bill.”

The bill allows any business, church or person to cite the law as a defense in any action brought by the government or individual claiming discrimination. It also allows the business or person to seek an injunction once they show their actions are based on a sincere religious belief and the claim places a burden on the exercise of their religion.
 
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REPORT SHOWS LINK BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY AND CHILD ABUSE | LifeSiteNews.com



WASHINGTON, May 31, 2002 (LSN.ca) - A new report published by the Family Research Council (FRC) reveals that there is a body of evidence indicating a definite link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Statistics show that homosexual men, who represent less than 3 percent of the adult male population, commit a disproportionate number (one-third or more) of the cases of child sexual molestation. The report, “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse,” authored by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey, is being sent to parents, youth groups, school administrators, Catholic bishops, and religious organizations. FRC’s report comes at a time when the nation has been rocked by scandals of child sexual abuse and when homosexuals argue that youth organizations such as the Boy Scouts should be forced to include homosexuals as leaders. Similarly, gay activist organizations are encouraging homosexual teachers to share their sexuality with their students. Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even “recruited” into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle. “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse” examines the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia: * Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men. * Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls). * The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population. * Homosexuals are over represented in child sex offenses: Those among the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children. * Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of “boy-lovers” to be a legitimate gay rights issue. * Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote “intergenerational intimacy.”“Children have become the last sexual frontier,” FRC President Ken Connor said. “Those given the task of protecting our nation’s children should give a serious look at these statistics and think twice before complying with the demands of homosexual activists.” See the full FRC report at: http://www.frc.org/get/is02e3.cfm?CFID=594805&CFTOKEN=50271543
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Right on, that's what I have to say about that!!! Nobody should be forced to have certain beliefs and practiced shoved down their throat!!! My problem with gays and lesbians is they don't want equality, they wanna stand out and be treated special because they suck dick or lick pussy. I'm against any group that thinks it can come in and bully society, and that's exactly what's happening with this whole gay movement. Is the fucking world getting any better having gays raising kids? I sure as hell don't think so!! Kids are more confused than ever, shit is a choice, I don't care who says what, you gotta be a complete moron to think this many fucking people were born that way
 
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My problem with gays and lesbians is they don't want equality, they wanna stand out and be treated special because they suck dick or lick pussy.
How do you figure that?
 
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REPORT SHOWS LINK BETWEEN HOMOSEXUALITY AND CHILD ABUSE | LifeSiteNews.com



WASHINGTON, May 31, 2002 (LSN.ca) - A new report published by the Family Research Council (FRC) reveals that there is a body of evidence indicating a definite link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Statistics show that homosexual men, who represent less than 3 percent of the adult male population, commit a disproportionate number (one-third or more) of the cases of child sexual molestation. The report, “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse,” authored by Dr. Timothy J. Dailey, is being sent to parents, youth groups, school administrators, Catholic bishops, and religious organizations. FRC’s report comes at a time when the nation has been rocked by scandals of child sexual abuse and when homosexuals argue that youth organizations such as the Boy Scouts should be forced to include homosexuals as leaders. Similarly, gay activist organizations are encouraging homosexual teachers to share their sexuality with their students. Many parents have become concerned that children may be molested, encouraged to become sexually active, or even “recruited” into adopting a homosexual identity and lifestyle. “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse” examines the following evidence linking homosexuality to pedophilia: * Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men. * Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls). * The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population. * Homosexuals are over represented in child sex offenses: Those among the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children. * Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of “boy-lovers” to be a legitimate gay rights issue. * Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote “intergenerational intimacy.”“Children have become the last sexual frontier,” FRC President Ken Connor said. “Those given the task of protecting our nation’s children should give a serious look at these statistics and think twice before complying with the demands of homosexual activists.” See the full FRC report at: Family Research Council
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The report might have a bit more credibility if it wasn't conducted by a Christian Lobbyist Organization.

Family Research Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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The report might have a bit more credibility if it wasn't conducted by a Christian Lobbyist Organization.

Family Research Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

With all of the pedophilia and homosexuality in the Catholic church I would think you would be more Pro-Christian. :D Just funnin ya MObig. before I go outside and work the farm.
 
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Geez let's see here, well first off we need to have a fucking parade for them, around here they have homo nights at the bars, it's not enough to have their own place, they need to try and take over others, it's on kids tv shows now, my stepdaughter watches some show on nickelodeon teen and there are lesbians and gays on there, it's all over the place!!! Yes I know, it's easy to turn the channel or don't go out that night, but it just seems like the shit is popping up everywhere. Go into a golds gym or LA fitness and try to use the sauna, motherfuckers wanna be sitting there with their legs open and dicks hanging out, it wouldn't be appropriate even if it was coed. Personally I'm fucking sick and tired of it. Masculinity is frowned upon nowadays and being a bitch is praised, fuck all this bullshit
 
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Right on just like they have a choice we have the choice to say no. Also its funny how groups like these want extras yet they wanted to be separate what there doing is making there self stand out. I've never seen a white only bar or tv channel or white parade. Also gays always bring there sexuality into like on these shows that are coming out on cable fags kissing and shit. I dont want my kids to see that !you dont see regular shows having large makeout sences almost sex in movies or shows why do gays always bring sex into every thing? with all there comments and sexual enuendos uggggh They want to brain wash all of america. there no diffrent than the race mogulers they keep things in hype so these groups can countinue to tell us how to live our lives
 
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