Ready for Cycle #2 -- The Bulker

[OLD GUY]

First, I want to thank you guys for getting me through Cycle 1. It was 500mg Organon Sust/wk, 400-600mg QV Deca/wk, and about 50mg QV Dbol/wk. Went from about 210 to 225 with a drop in BF. I was expecting more gains, but an OLD fuck like me will take what he can get. Absolutely no sign of any gyno.

I am in week 9 and thinking about starting cycle 2 immediately. I think I wanna try "The Bulker" outta AnimalMass's FAQ.

It calls for a base of about 1000mg/wk test, 400mg Deca, and 100 mg Anadrol/wk.

What do you guys think? Should I go for it as a second cycle?

PS--I have been reading threads on QV products. Sounds like the brotherhood is split down the middle on their quality. Since my source gave me Deca and Dbol from QV, second time around I want to make sure I get human grade shit. Anybody recommend a quality source.

Thanks,

OLD GUY
NYC/NNJ area

 

[ThePatriot]

Just go for your test at 750mg a week. No need to be hitting the gear that hard on your 2nd cycle.

 

[Pablo34]

You would probably make even more gains if you use the same cycle you're on now again on your 'bulker'.

It worries me that you are so overly-eager to start a bulk cycle, and I see that you want to double your test dosage. I really don't think you need that much. You could stay at 500mg/week again or MAYBE go to 750mg/week. More drugs is not always a good thing. Better training and nutrition principles are the key, and then supplement them with AAS.

 

[Deacon]

I agree dont go that heavy with test on a second cycle bro. 500 should do just fine.
As far as QV goes it is a good product.

Did you mean 100 mgs per day of anadrol? 100 per week would not be enough.
Actually for a second cycle 50 per day should be fine.
And 400 hundred for the deca is a good number for you at this time also.

 

[jaysmithinwesson]

i also agree on the 500-750mg of test a week. i am going to be doing my third and only 750 mg a week.

 

[joe shmoe]

what troubles me is that you're in week 9 of your first cycle, and you want to start another immediately. GO THROUGH RECOVERY FIRST!!. what the hell is the rush? follow the tried and true, and simple, rule of staying off as long as you were on.

next problem...i wouldnt jump the test up to 1000mg/wk. you said you were expecting more results from the first cycle. well now...be honest with yourself here. did you eat the 4000 to 4500 cals ED?? minimum of 300grams of protein ED?? did you sleep atleast 8 hrs every night? are you training the right way? if you can honestly answer yes to all 3 of these questions...without allowing any ego to interfere...then go ahead and bump the test up to 750mg/wk. however, if you honestly cant say that you did those 3 very important things correctly, then just do the same cycle over again, and concentrate on correcting the weak link.

have a nice day

 

[nj juice]

Time on should equal time off so you should take a few months off before going on to cycle #2. Also, i would stay at the doses you ran the first cycle, they'll do you fine as long as everything else is in order. Don't rush to up your doses, stay low for awhile. Besides your results from your first cycle sound pretty good to me- put on 15 pounds of lean mass while lowering your bf, that sounds like a good cycle to me...

 

[mesomember]

First, I want to thank you guys for getting me through Cycle 1. It was 500mg Organon Sust/wk, 400-600mg QV Deca/wk, and about 50mg QV Dbol/wk. Went from about 210 to 225 with a drop in BF. I was expecting more gains, but an OLD fuck like me will take what he can get. Absolutely no sign of any gyno.

I am in week 9 and thinking about starting cycle 2 immediately. I think I wanna try "The Bulker" outta AnimalMass's FAQ.

It calls for a base of about 1000mg/wk test, 400mg Deca, and 100 mg Anadrol/wk.

What do you guys think? Should I go for it as a second cycle?

PS--I have been reading threads on QV products. Sounds like the brotherhood is split down the middle on their quality. Since my source gave me Deca and Dbol from QV, second time around I want to make sure I get human grade shit. Anybody recommend a quality source.

Thanks,

OLD GUY
NYC/NNJ area

Alot of good feedback for you here bro, The stuffs not magic..I thought the same way when I gained 20lbs...I thought my great genetics would blow me up, and I was able to awnser yes to the three questions above...okay maybe not on 2 gallons a day of water, but Eat more this cycle, sleep way more than you think you need and a protein drink/bar to every meal. Run some EQ in the next cycle for 13 weeks- you will love the lean mass gains and the are keepable gains, plus added vascularity. Get cut and add mass for cycle 2! At 200lbs you just need 500mg test weekly, d-bol@30mg ed week 1-6, deca 400mg weekly, and EQ 400mg weekly..just my 2cents and pretty much what my next roll will look like except Im running 600mg EQ and sus250.

 

[nj juice]

At 200lbs you just need 500mg test weekly, d-bol@30mg ed week 1-6, deca 400mg weekly, and EQ 400mg weekly..just my 2cents and pretty much what my next roll will look like except Im running 600mg EQ and sus250.

Why would you run deca and eq at the same time?

 

[OLD GUY]

Local Domestic Source

Why would you run deca and eq at the same time?

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate the help. Actually, my gains are ok. I just want more. I don't have kids, I don't have parents, I pull in good money, and this is my only vice--so I figure why not push it. I have little or nothing to lose.

I may have to wait to kick off cycle 2 anyway. My source off of anabolics.com disapeared when I tried to contact him for round 2. Then I went to anabolics.com to check out what happened and to hook up again.

The site no longer has a backroom--so I'm lookin for a new hookup. Domestic n local would be good.

 

[mesomember]

Why would you run deca and eq at the same time?

For the joints and more size, right now Im throwing it the mix right now on a Tes Prop, EQ and d-bol cycle. My Deca was free as my source felt bad because he charges too damn much, but I guess your right he could save his $and drop the Deca.

 

[eleven11]

what troubles me is that you're in week 9 of your first cycle, and you want to start another immediately. GO THROUGH RECOVERY FIRST!!. what the hell is the rush? follow the tried and true, and simple, rule of staying off as long as you were on.

next problem...i wouldnt jump the test up to 1000mg/wk. you said you were expecting more results from the first cycle. well now...be honest with yourself here. did you eat the 4000 to 4500 cals ED?? minimum of 300grams of protein ED?? did you sleep atleast 8 hrs every night? are you training the right way? if you can honestly answer yes to all 3 of these questions...without allowing any ego to interfere...then go ahead and bump the test up to 750mg/wk. however, if you honestly cant say that you did those 3 very important things correctly, then just do the same cycle over again, and concentrate on correcting the weak link.

have a nice day

Well said, I'd listen to it. you said you put on 15lbs and dropped bodyfat. thats not to bad, you spead that out over a couple years of hard training..... well think about it. your not going to turn into Arnold over night. So take some time off and recover. About the QV. I know its vet gear but the stuff today is made for Bodybuilding more than anything else so you may as well call it human grade.

 

[4545]

Bro you have to take some time off! Do your PCT and relax a lil maybe stay out of the gym for a week or so. Let your body recover. Take atleast the length of the cycle off so if its 10 weeks take 10 weeks off i know its hard to come clean but the only thing i would stay on year round is GH. You could also run a small bridge like 10mg dbol in the morning. You have to let your body recover!!!!!!

Thats a pretty big second cycle! But with you being older and gains coming harder its understandable. I like the cycle but drop the Abombs and add dbol instead. You will just see way to many sides with 100mgs drol. Just stick with 50mg Dbol like your first cycle but dont use qv get some naps or thais. And please go on a strict diet like 300-400 grams protein per day. You will def thank yourself your boby will respond and grow by leaps and bounds!

 

[" ANABIOLIC " FrEaK]

Get it right

First, I want to thank you guys for getting me through Cycle 1. It was 500mg Organon Sust/wk, 400-600mg QV Deca/wk, and about 50mg QV Dbol/wk. Went from about 210 to 225 with a drop in BF. I was expecting more gains, but an OLD fuck like me will take what he can get. Absolutely no sign of any gyno.

I am in week 9 and thinking about starting cycle 2 immediately. I think I wanna try "The Bulker" outta AnimalMass's FAQ.

It calls for a base of about 1000mg/wk test, 400mg Deca, and 100 mg Anadrol/wk.

What do you guys think? Should I go for it as a second cycle?

PS--I have been reading threads on QV products. Sounds like the brotherhood is split down the middle on their quality. Since my source gave me Deca and Dbol from QV, second time around I want to make sure I get human grade shit. Anybody recommend a quality source.

Thanks,

OLD GUY
NYC/NNJ area

First of QV don't make d bol. And second you need recovery time if you start a new cycle you are not going to get shit your receptors are shot and need a BREAK!!!!!!!!!!

Better have some nolvy or clomid handy...........

 

[FearMy6Pak]

Bro You need to get off your cycle and Start your PCT before you start up another one!

Do you want to be on HRT for the rest of your life?

 

[OLD GUY]

Sorry DENKALL DBOL -- Not QV

[QUOTE=" ANABIOLIC " FrEaK]First of QV don't make d bol. And second you need recovery time if you start a new cycle you are not going to get shit your receptors are shot and need a BREAK!!!!!!!!!!

Better have some nolvy or clomid handy...........[/QUOTE]

Sorry, it was DENKALL DBOL, not QV. I will lay off my cycle at least until I find another good source.

Thanks, You guys helped a lot.

 

[joe shmoe]

now i have no problem with the guy running EQ and deca. Phreezer loves that combo. collogen synthesis and synovial fluid benefits. my problem is this guy taking 400mg/wk of each!! WTF??? for a second cycle? 200mg/wk of each! thats it...ofcourse add the test in there too.

have a nice day