Primo/Cyp blend

[ShoNuFF]

Hey fellas, on this blend would you add the 6g of Cyp raws in beaker, then add and Heat Mct oil for melting point of 98-104c, let it stir on mixer until the oil cools to 50-60c. Then add Primo. Stir Until clear, then add BB+BA?



What temperature would you add the primo?

How’s this?



Cyp/Primo 120/100



50ml

BA 2%

BB 18%

29.53ml Mct

6g Test cyp

5g Primo

BA 1ml

BB 9ml

 

[ShoNuFF]

What do you think fellas?

 

[klokke23]

Just add everything and heat to 40°C and stir for 10 minutes.
I've made 175/175 primo test c without a problem. So you can go higher if u want

 

[Disarmer]

Your process seems overly complicated in the way you're adding materials one at a time. I would start with a beaker with a magnetic stir rod and nothing else inside. I'd add the raws, add the BB and BA, add the oil, put the beaker on my hotplate and turn the magnet and heat on and let it stir until the entire solution is clear and all powder has dissolved.

 

[ShoNuFF]

Your process seems overly complicated in the way you're adding materials one at a time. I would start with a beaker with a magnetic stir rod and nothing else inside. I'd add the raws, add the BB and BA, add the oil, put the beaker on my hotplate and turn the magnet and heat on and let it stir until the entire solution is clear and all powder has dissolved.

Yeah I was unsure since the melting points were different. And At what temp? 40c?

 

[Disarmer]

You'll have to eventually get to the temperature of the compound with the highest melting point. To be honest I don't spend much time worrying about the heat level, I just keep it reasonably low, 40C is probably too low it's just a little warmer than body temperature. I'd probably start around 60-70 and see how far I get with that, and adjust it upwards very slightly if necessary.

In my experience heat isn't required for creating the solution, but it does speed the process up.

 

[Bigguy81]

Hey fellas, on this blend would you add the 6g of Cyp raws in beaker, then add and Heat Mct oil for melting point of 98-104c, let it stir on mixer until the oil cools to 50-60c. Then add Primo. Stir Until clear, then add BB+BA?



What temperature would you add the primo?

How’s this?



Cyp/Primo 120/100



50ml

BA 2%

BB 18%

29.53ml Mct

6g Test cyp

5g Primo

BA 1ml

BB 9ml

Brother no careful who you take advice from. Addd your Primo and Test C raw powder to a beaker by itself. Turn the hot plate on do not have the hot plate warm before you put the Raw on it. ( has this could cause the compound at the bottom of the beaker especially if it's Primo being as though particle size is so big to burn). So turn the hot plate on after you set the beaker on it allowing it to warm up slowly. Now allow it to heat to 216°F ( the highest melting point for both compounds which is test C) keep it at the melting point about 10 minutes
Now add your BB at 45° C, and wait 10 minuteskeeping it at the melting point. Then add your carrier oil also at 45° C, keeping it at the melting point for about another 10 to 15 minutes. Now turn the hot plate off allowing it to cool down slowly keep it on the hot plate and keep your stor Rod spinning. When it gets down to 120° F add your BA, and proceed to filter. If you're using a PTFE or PVDF hydrophobic filter membrane. If yoir using nylon or some other junk I don't know what temperature they can withstand.

( remember just your Raw powder will be in the beaker when you put it on the hot plate. As soon as you notice it's starting to melt a tiny bit turn your stir rod on but do not turn it on until it starts to melt or you will have powder all over the place)


Here's a little bit of knowledge I don't tell everybody. This is the proper way to brew, and using this method and the correct melting points for the correct time cuts out the need for just about all super solvents on most compounds. ...


Let me know how it turns out for you.

 

[Disarmer]

The above is far more complex than it needs to be, you're not building a nuclear warhead you're dissolving powder in oil. To suggest this meticulously detailed essay must be followed as the only way to avoid super solvents just isn't true.

But ultimatley OP will do OP

 

[Bigguy81]

The above is far more complex than it needs to be, you're not building a nuclear warhead you're dissolving powder in oil. To suggest this meticulously detailed essay must be followed as the only way to avoid super solvents just isn't true.

But ultimatley OP will do OP

Okay brother you show me another way to make injectable Winstrol at 50mg using any EO or G without this process? Maybe I don't know what I'm doing after 10,000 Brewers.lol...


I never told OP he had to use this method or anybody else. I kind of thought I was doing people a favor by putting this out there as it took me probably 8 years to learn, but I see you're smarter. So yeah let me know about that injectable Winstrol whenever you get a chance?‍‍‍

 

[Disarmer]

Okay brother you show me another way to make injectable Winstrol at 50mg using any EO or G without this process?

OP asked about Test/Primo blend. Your post itself mentioned Test and Primo and did NOT mention winstrol. Why are you suddenly gaslighting the thread to make it about winstrol?

Set aside the ego, no need to "okay brother" me. OP asked for a simple process to make the brew, and I delivered. No need to get defensive about your process being different than mine.

 

[Bigguy81]

Your process seems overly complicated in the way you're adding materials one at a time. I would start with a beaker with a magnetic stir rod and nothing else inside. I'd add the raws, add the BB and BA, add the oil, put the beaker on my hotplate and turn the magnet and heat on and let it stir until the entire solution is clear and all powder has dissolved.

But OP is supposed to take this advice? SMH. Brother compounds have melting points for a reason. This isn't something somebody just made up one day and said hey let's tell them that it melts at this temperature. There is a reason for melting points, and if you're not bringing your compounds to the melting point there is no guarantee they're going to stay in solution, and most times from my experience will not crash in the vial. However it will crash inside your ass or wherever you inject it leaving a knot behind. In case you didn't know the kmot is from it crashing due to either somebody not bring it to the correct melting point or not enough solvents. Usually the melting point and the time at the melting point.


Will it work doing it the way you're doing it by throwing everything into a beaker and throwing it on the hot plate? Yes it will as long as it's a easy compound to hold but you start getting into making injectable orals or blends and good luck with all that.

Serious question for you brother. If I was to make 400 mL of this how would you go about filtering it? A syringe filter, a disposable bottle top filter, a glass filtering funnel hooked to a filtering flask, or a capsule filter and what material membrane would you use?

 

[Bigguy81]

OP asked about Test/Primo blend. Your post itself mentioned Test and Primo and did NOT mention winstrol. Why are you suddenly gaslighting the thread to make it about winstrol?

Set aside the ego, no need to "okay brother" me. OP asked for a simple process to make the brew, and I delivered. No need to get defensive about your process being different than mine.

Exactly he asked how to make primo and test C. I don't care if he asked how to make EQ by itself which is fucking the easiest compound to make in the world I would have told him the same exact instructions. Why? Because it's the proper way. If you don't believe me read some pharmaceutical literature on compounding pharmacies or large pharmaceutical companies (you can always find the patents like I did), and how they go about Brewing anabolics.


I don't know what gas Layton is but I think it means changing the subject. I'm not really changing the subject we're still talking about Brewing. So I wanted you to tell me how to go about making injectable Winstrol at 50 mg without using super solvent since you said your way is the best way and mine was overkill I guess you could say. That's what you were insinuating anyway.

 

[DECLAN]

But OP is supposed to take this advice? SMH. Brother compounds have melting points for a reason. This isn't something somebody just made up one day and said hey let's tell them that it melts at this temperature. There is a reason for melting points, and if you're not bringing your compounds to the melting point there is no guarantee they're going to stay in solution, and most times from my experience will not crash in the vial. However it will crash inside your ass or wherever you inject it leaving a knot behind. In case you didn't know the kmot is from it crashing due to either somebody not bring it to the correct melting point or not enough solvents. Usually the melting point and the time at the melting point.


Will it work doing it the way you're doing it by throwing everything into a beaker and throwing it on the hot plate? Yes it will as long as it's a easy compound to hold but you start getting into making injectable orals or blends and good luck with all that.

Serious question for you brother. If I was to make 400 mL of this how would you go about filtering it? A syringe filter, a disposable bottle top filter, a glass filtering funnel hooked to a filtering flask, or a capsule filter and what material membrane would you use?

How do you know if it crashed it your ass? Serious question, I never never melted my powder alone, always with the solvents. I never felt it crashing inside me but it might be doing that without me knowing.

 

[Disarmer]

How do you know if it crashed it your ass? Serious question, I never never melted my powder alone, always with the solvents. I never felt it crashing inside me but it might be doing that without me knowing.

I've been doing this since 2008 both as a small time UGL and now as a home brewer, it's never been a problem. Tune out the noise.

 

[Bigguy81]

How do you know if it crashed it your ass? Serious question, I never never melted my powder alone, always with the solvents. I never felt it crashing inside me but it might be doing that without me knowing.

Have you ever done an injection and the next day you have not at the injection site that's painful? That means it fell out of solution inside your ass or wherever you injected it. Don't take this the wrong way I'm not saying that will happen every time you brew by adding everything in the beaker together. That will work fine for most compounds, especially if you're using enough solvents. However by doing it the way I suggest it which is the proper way that pharmaceutical companies do it your chances of this happening are slim to none. Make sense?

 

[Disarmer]

No I've never had a knot from injection and I actually use lower BB than most circulation recipes call for.

I've explained the process, there isn't really more to add but If you have further questions about simplifying your home brew process please make your own thread rather than hijack OPs thread asking about brewing Test and Primo blend.

 

[Bigguy81]

No I've never had a knot from injection and I actually use lower BB than most circulation recipes call for.

I've explained the process, there isn't really more to add but If you have further questions about simplifying your home brew process please make your own thread rather than hijack OPs thread asking about brewing Test and Primo blend.

Brother can I hire you to teach me?

 

[DECLAN]

Have you ever done an injection and the next day you have not at the injection site that's painful? That means it fell out of solution inside your ass or wherever you injected it. Don't take this the wrong way I'm not saying that will happen every time you brew by adding everything in the beaker together. That will work fine for most compounds, especially if you're using enough solvents. However by doing it the way I suggest it which is the proper way that pharmaceutical companies do it your chances of this happening are slim to none. Make sense?

How could I differentiate that from other post injection pains? Please specify the difference.

 

[Bigguy81]

How could I differentiate that from other post injection pains? Please specify the difference.

It's pretty easy brother. Post injection pain is just pain but when you rub your hand over the injection site you will feel a Hard Knot. If you feel a Hard Knot which 97% of AAS users have experienced at one point or another you know it has fallen out of solution AKA crashed inside the muscle.

 

[ShoNuFF]

Brother no careful who you take advice from. Addd your Primo and Test C raw powder to a beaker by itself. Turn the hot plate on do not have the hot plate warm before you put the Raw on it. ( has this could cause the compound at the bottom of the beaker especially if it's Primo being as though particle size is so big to burn). So turn the hot plate on after you set the beaker on it allowing it to warm up slowly. Now allow it to heat to 216°F ( the highest melting point for both compounds which is test C) keep it at the melting point about 10 minutes
Now add your BB at 45° C, and wait 10 minuteskeeping it at the melting point. Then add your carrier oil also at 45° C, keeping it at the melting point for about another 10 to 15 minutes. Now turn the hot plate off allowing it to cool down slowly keep it on the hot plate and keep your stor Rod spinning. When it gets down to 120° F add your BA, and proceed to filter. If you're using a PTFE or PVDF hydrophobic filter membrane. If yoir using nylon or some other junk I don't know what temperature they can withstand.

( remember just your Raw powder will be in the beaker when you put it on the hot plate. As soon as you notice it's starting to melt a tiny bit turn your stir rod on but do not turn it on until it starts to melt or you will have powder all over the place)


Here's a little bit of knowledge I don't tell everybody. This is the proper way to brew, and using this method and the correct melting points for the correct time cuts out the need for just about all super solvents on most compounds. ...


Let me know how it turns out for you.

Everything started getting clear around 65c so I took it to 72 and held it there for 10 minutes, then cut the heat off.

When it dropped to 50c I added bb and then ba, I left it on the mixer for 15 minutes and at 40c I started filtering. It’s going on 12hrs and it’s still holding. Looks beautiful lol, But only one way to find out. Hmb

Thanks everyone for the knowledge. It’s appreciated! One thing for sure is after learning the “brewing” side of Anabolics I look at some sponsors list now and call bullshit on their listed mg/ml lmao.

1st brew I fucked up, I had the scale set on the wrong mode, I had some test at 20mg/ml lol good thing I didn’t try The blend 1st. My next one I want to try will be Test C/Primo/Npp 120/100/60.