NPP or tren a ?

[Bigbicep]

Hey all. Thoughts coming across my mind. Would a low dose tren say like 200 be more effective then running npp at 400? Let’s say for adding on muscle size. What would be the difference? What are your suggestions on this? Thanks.

Yes I do plan on running a nandrolone steroid I’m the near future.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Any concern for hair loss?


I personally would do npp at 300

 

[Bigbicep]

Any concern for hair loss?


I personally would do npp at 300

Yes. I love my hair but I know the reality of using aas lol fortunately I am blessed with good hair genetics. My father is now 70 still with a full head of hair. I do plan on using things like ru and mino if I do see significant hairloss.

 

[Mishka]

I'd say do both.

like go for 100-200 tren and 300-400 npp - tren for NP part

 

[ripper908]

tren in a much stronger compound but it all depends on how you handle the sides of either

Npp/deca gave me horrible back acne and I got underwhelming results from them

tren I can run no problem with minimal sides

it all comes down to which one you can handle better

 

[lilchikin]

I'd say do both.

like go for 100-200 tren and 300-400 npp - tren for NP part

This is a combo I’m seeing more and more of. What benefit would nandrolone give in comparison to tren? Would nandrolone even help with joints if tren is in the picture and helping water retention

 

[Bigbicep]

This is a combo I’m seeing more and more of. What benefit would nandrolone give in comparison to tren? Would nandrolone even help with joints if tren is in the picture and helping water retention

You mean trying them together ?

 

[BigTomJ]

Tren is overrated, especially in an off-season capacity.

IMO tren doesn't really have a place outside of a contest scenario.

If long term progress is a goal of yours, I'd typically avoid tren as much as possible. Other options will get you to the same place with less problems and toxicity

 

[lilchikin]

You mean trying them together ?

Yea

 

[DECLAN]

Hey all. Thoughts coming across my mind. Would a low dose tren say like 200 be more effective then running npp at 400? Let’s say for adding on muscle size. What would be the difference? What are your suggestions on this? Thanks.

Yes I do plan on running a nandrolone steroid I’m the near future.

You’re just on your first cycle, why are you thinking of adding tren already? Imagine how much you’re going to panic again if you run into more aromatization with nandrolone.

If you use the search button you will see so much ideas for a productive second cycle, but most are in a rush to grow because their first cycle results are unsatisfactory so they think adding other compounds is the answer.

Why not run more test for second cycle? Find your threshold for maximum testosterone before adding AI.

 

[Bigbicep]

Tren is overrated, especially in an off-season capacity.

IMO tren doesn't really have a place outside of a contest scenario.

If long term progress is a goal of yours, I'd typically avoid tren as much as possible. Other options will get you to the same place with less problems and toxicity

Yea was thinking the same thing. But heard some people would prefer low dose tren over nandrolone.

Yea

I don’t think that’s a good idea for me at this current time. I haven’t even tried one of them by themselves.

You’re just on your first cycle, why are you thinking of adding tren already? Imagine how much you’re going to panic again if you run into more aromatization with nandrolone.

If you use the search button you will see so much ideas for a productive second cycle, but most are in a rush to grow because their first cycle results are unsatisfactory so they think adding other compounds is the answer.

Why not run more test for second cycle? Find your threshold for maximum testosterone before adding AI.

I was planning to do that for my third cycle when I was planning to cut. For my second cycle I was planning to dip my feet into either 19-nor or DHT derivatives because I want to do another bulk.

 

[sbdman]

Hey all. Thoughts coming across my mind. Would a low dose tren say like 200 be more effective then running npp at 400? Let’s say for adding on muscle size. What would be the difference? What are your suggestions on this? Thanks.

Yes I do plan on running a nandrolone steroid I’m the near future.

Would low dose tren be more effective? It depends. You’ve never run it obviously so what if you take it and you can’t sleep and you lose you’re appetite. Common sense would tell you that’s not good for muscle growth. But, if you sleep well and eat well then maybe it would be effective but I would tell you that it’ll have a larger impact on bloodwork then NPP.

NPP at moderate doses typically doesn’t effect sleep or appetite.

So this all comes down to a risk reward analysis. You can risk running tren for the hope of some “easier” gains but the other side of it is you can’t sleep, can’t eat, you’re 3-4 weeks into a cycle and now you have to start over.

NPP is tried and true. You may still experience some sides but those will likely be limited to mental and sexual sides which masteron could alleviate. I’m not sure how old you are but always remember, time to grow is limited. My recommendation: don’t spin your wheels with something as risky as tren in the offseason unless you’re @Beef_Stu_97, lol. Most can’t handle it. Take advantage of your time to grow and go the NPP route. Save tren for the tail end of a cut when you’re in a severe deficit before a show.

 

[Dickwang]

I ran Npp a good amount… not so much anymore…

I didn’t get any terrible sides that made me want to stop….Only things I remember was when I ran it with Sust I had to use nolva and ai the whole time… don’t really ever need nolva except for cases like that where my flair ups wouldn’t go away… also I saw someone say bacne here…. My back was destroyed as well… might have been from the high Sust dose though….

I’d suggest tryin NPP over Tren if you have nó experience with either…no point in really runnin either of them if you’re not competing tho… just my opinion

 

[may2021]

I ran Npp a good amount… not so much anymore…

I didn’t get any terrible sides that made me want to stop….Only things I remember was when I ran it with Sust I had to use nolva and ai the whole time… don’t really ever need nolva except for cases like that where my flair ups wouldn’t go away… also I saw someone say bacne here…. My back was destroyed as well… might have been from the high Sust dose though….

I’d suggest tryin NPP over Tren if you have nó experience with either…no point in really runnin either of them if you’re not competing tho… just my opinion

What were your higher end npp/sus cycles?
Body weight and age too.
Thanks bro

 

[ripper908]

Tren is overrated, especially in an off-season capacity.

IMO tren doesn't really have a place outside of a contest scenario.

agree entirely

but I was typical bro and ran tren a few times as a non competitor because I thought it was the secret of the pros lol

nowadays I just tell people if you want to run gear and be bigger than the average gym goer all you need is test. test with a good diet and training is all you ever need if you just want to go to the gym and get big

 

[Spideog]

agree entirely

but I was typical bro and ran tren a few times as a non competitor because I thought it was the secret of the pros lol

nowadays I just tell people if you want to run gear and be bigger than the average gym goer all you need is test. test with a good diet and training is all you ever need if you just want to go to the gym and get big

How much test? I ran trt test with tren/npp and overall enjoyed it more, got better results.

 

[gettingbig]

Tren is a great addition to an off season cycle but should really only be added as often as you'd add orals.

I would run a test npp base and add tren 50mg eod. The strength and size from this cycle will be second to none. Personally I dont like orals because of the impact on hunger so I go the tren a route to bust past plateaus or just to end off a blast.

^^ this advice is not for beginners.

 

[Fattyone]

Have you even finished your first cycle of test yet?

 

[Bigbicep]

Would low dose tren be more effective? It depends. You’ve never run it obviously so what if you take it and you can’t sleep and you lose you’re appetite. Common sense would tell you that’s not good for muscle growth. But, if you sleep well and eat well then maybe it would be effective but I would tell you that it’ll have a larger impact on bloodwork then NPP.

NPP at moderate doses typically doesn’t effect sleep or appetite.

So this all comes down to a risk reward analysis. You can risk running tren for the hope of some “easier” gains but the other side of it is you can’t sleep, can’t eat, you’re 3-4 weeks into a cycle and now you have to start over.

NPP is tried and true. You may still experience some sides but those will likely be limited to mental and sexual sides which masteron could alleviate. I’m not sure how old you are but always remember, time to grow is limited. My recommendation: don’t spin your wheels with something as risky as tren in the offseason unless you’re @Beef_Stu_97, lol. Most can’t handle it. Take advantage of your time to grow and go the NPP route. Save tren for the tail end of a cut when you’re in a severe deficit before a show.

Good reply.

Have you even finished your first cycle of test yet?

I’m finishing in about 2 weeks

 

[ManK]

low dose tren