No Gov't Healthcare for me!

[dennis]

The financial crisis was created by our liberal run government.Free trade will fix this country not big government.It's actually pretty simple.Do you remember why the pilgrims came to America? What were they fleeing from? Why in the hell would we want to go back to the system they ran from ? I work for extremely wealthy group of people,they are self made millionaires.Now that the economy is struggling they have quit spending money..this hurts the working class..the 40% I referred to earlier.When gov gets out of the way and Americans are allowed to do what they do best..(hard work/innovation,determination,free trade,capitalism) the economy rebounds.Jeton,you think there are only an elite few wealthy in this country..this is false..Americans on the whole are very wealthy and do very well when the liberal gov gets out of their way.You cannot spend your way out of debt,the gov cant run anything correctly,you cant get ahead by punishing hard working Americans.No matter how hard they try the liberals also cannot remove God from this great country.

 

[TrainHard]

Our goverment and all the liberals think spending is the answer....What exactly does spending solve? If I was the new president, the first thing I would do is cut the fat, and all the excess spending, then next thing I would do, is role back the law that allowed the goverment to tap into social security. Then I would concentrate the efforts on building a strong army, and stock piling our gold reserves, then I would switch our dollar back to gold....Geez....lets see, I'd do away with the welfare system....to a certain extent.....then get rid of illegal immigration, get the people on welfare to start working. I would basicaly let the country and business run themselves. Take the goverment out of the picture, goverments job, to enforce laws, and make new ones, represent out country. O maybe one change I would consider too, instead of taking taxes out of everyones paycheck...I would abolish the IRS, and create a 15% tax on everything. Then all those drug dealers that make cash would actually have to pay some taxes for once. Could you imagine getting your full paycheck?? Could you imagine that all those dollars going to the goverment aren't paying for some moron to sit on a computer all day and search online.

 

[dennis]

A flat tax would turn this country around quickly.This means illegals,welfare recipients,lazy Americans,tourists,rich,poor,old/ young..we all would pay tax on items purchased.If I were vice pres. I would freeze unspent tarp and stimuluos $ and give it back to the legit tax payers.Gov run health care would be abolished along with cap and trade.The muslims would be rounded up and deported along with any other enemy of the country.Death row inmates would be imediatly put to death,prisoners would lose all their privledges and rights in jail/prison.Inmates would be made to work to produce a usefull product to Americans.I would get serious about education.Warn enemy nations once about attacking us,give the military command back to the pentagon.Invest in Americas future,laugh at the global warming scam.I would take care of all this during week 1.

 

[Jeton]

A flat tax would turn this country around quickly.This means illegals,welfare recipients,lazy Americans,tourists,rich,poor,old/ young..we all would pay tax on items purchased.If I were vice pres. I would freeze unspent tarp and stimuluos $ and give it back to the legit tax payers.Gov run health care would be abolished along with cap and trade.The muslims would be rounded up and deported along with any other enemy of the country.Death row inmates would be imediatly put to death,prisoners would lose all their privledges and rights in jail/prison.Inmates would be made to work to produce a usefull product to Americans.I would get serious about education.Warn enemy nations once about attacking us,give the military command back to the pentagon.Invest in Americas future,laugh at the global warming scam.I would take care of all this during week 1.

the more u type, the less u power have in this country. keep posting.

 

[dennis]

the more u type, the less u power have in this country. keep posting.

Sorry,but your not making any sense??

 

[dennis]

the more u type, the less u power have in this country. keep posting.

I am guessing you are trying to say " The more you type the less power you have in this country,keep posting". I can see now that you are a muslim at heart,living in America,you have liberal agenda to change our constitution and do not agree with American Christian family values.I will take your advice and keep posting and talking to everyone I can about freedom in this country and the God that I love.I understand the muslims are fast growing across the world and have a long term plan to take over the world.The problem I have with that is this is America where I live,I love this land and enjoy it's freedoms and dont want to see it changed into something I dont agree with.Let the muslims live here by our laws or send them home...you are correct about less power..The typical American is not paying attyention and they are losing their power to minorities and liberal government.And that is exactly what the typical muslim wants.(Obama..typical muslim )

 

[TrainHard]

I think all individuals coming into this country should offer this country a bit of respect, don't try and change our country to be like another country, this is American, if you want your country, then go back to your home country. No one would ever go into say germany, india, and say we want you to change this country, these values are wrong, and they hurt us. This is our American country, we have a foundation, we ask you respect our foundation, you can practice your muslim religion, but don't try and change what we founded our country on, if you don't like it, then you can leave.

 

[dennis]

Try going to or moving to Austraila and imposing your ethical or religious rights on those folks.Try changing their beliefs,laws,governing system,etc..See where that gets you.Jeton,you came on another post yesterday and talked about guys shoving their cocks up your ass and filling you up with cum..I did not see anyone give you crap over that.Why does it bother you when I talk about what I like or dislike or share my beliefs and or actions.

 

[TrainHard]

Try going to or moving to Austraila and imposing your ethical or religious rights on those folks.Try changing their beliefs,laws,governing system,etc..See where that gets you.Jeton,you came on another post yesterday and talked about guys shoving their cocks up your ass and filling you up with cum..I did not see anyone give you crap over that.Why does it bother you when I talk about what I like or dislike or share my beliefs and or actions.

No one gave Jeton any crap because everyone was to busy puking their guts out and pouring bleach in there eyes after reading that. That was disgusting!!

 

[Jeton]

Try going to or moving to Austraila and imposing your ethical or religious rights on those folks.Try changing their beliefs,laws,governing system,etc..See where that gets you.Jeton,you came on another post yesterday and talked about guys shoving their cocks up your ass and filling you up with cum..I did not see anyone give you crap over that.Why does it bother you when I talk about what I like or dislike or share my beliefs and or actions.

No one gave Jeton any crap because everyone was to busy puking their guts out and pouring bleach in there eyes after reading that. That was disgusting!!

[)] obviously i had u guys pegged right. u both stridently profess Christian beliefs while u laud the greed and perfidy of robber-barons who continue to bankrupt the American financial system...meanwhile, u demand tolerance while being racist homophobes urselves. Jesus Christ himself made sport of guys like u.

the good ole USA was founded by visionary Founders who saw thru this self-serving, self-righteous primitivism...this is why guys like u try to co-opt the language of Freedom.

only thing is, the more u write, the more u give urselves away...ur just another flavor of fundamentalist. ALL fundamentalism is doomed doomed doomed.

 

[dennis]

jeton,if I had time I would google some of the words you used so I could interpret whatever it is you are trying to say.What I am hearing from you though is threats about muslims taking us over on two seperate posts from you.1.The more you type the less power you have in this country.
2.All fundalmentalism is doomed doomed doomed.
I have not threatend you,called you names or anything of the sort.The belief the muslims share about destroying Americans and the rest of the world is obvious.I can hear it in your tones.We are at war with the muslims,the muslims are attacking us..in our own country mind you..and most Americans are too worried about being politically correct.I will stand firm for my values,the US constitution,and my religion untill the end..which is coming..you might want to read the book of revelations...

 

[Jeton]

jeton,if I had time I would google some of the words you used so I could interpret whatever it is you are trying to say.What I am hearing from you though is threats about muslims taking us over on two seperate posts from you.1.The more you type the less power you have in this country.
2.All fundalmentalism is doomed doomed doomed.
I have not threatend you,called you names or anything of the sort.The belief the muslims share about destroying Americans and the rest of the world is obvious.I can hear it in your tones.We are at war with the muslims,the muslims are attacking us..in our own country mind you..and most Americans are too worried about being politically correct.I will stand firm for my values,the US constitution,and my religion untill the end..which is coming..you might want to read the book of revelations...

[)]dude, r u for real? first u state that u do not understand me, then u follow it with claims about me making "threats about Muslims taking us over". THEN, u can "hear"(!?) "it" in my "tones"(!?)

ur geopolitical claims r irrelevant, we (the United States Of America) are NOT at war with Islam, tho a certain percentile of Muslims and Christians indeed wish that were so and attempt to make it so.

as i said, all fundamentalism is doomed. the Muslim variety, the Christian variety, the Jewish variety, and that newfangled Hindu-variety as well.

what's certainly peculiar is how the rich and powerful have learned to co-opt fundamentalism, which historically has evolved amongst poor people to provide solidarity against social elites.

so in this thread about HEALTHCARE, we have an Evangelical Fundamentalist (U) muddying the issue in any way u can with screeches about the sky falling. as if Jesus was hostile to sick people!


maybe i'm wrong, perhaps i missed the memo announcing a new alliance between ACT-UP and Al Qaeda? there WAS that "public option" healthcare conference last year i was unable to make, hosted by Mistress Formika and Ayman Al Zawahiri...










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[Bridger]

Here is a song for the haters. Will probably stir up some more hate and fear of muslims or anyone different, because that is what these followers of christ(a fictional character BTW) seem to do best.

Leaving Jesusland - NOFX

We call the heartland not very smart land, IQ's are very low but threat levels are high
They got a mandate, they don't want man-dates, they got so many hates and people to despise

In the dust bowl, cerebral black hole, the average weight is well over 200 pounds
I hate to generalize, but have you seen the thighs, most haven't seen their genitalia in a while

Maybe that's why they're so scared of us
We've concerns other than fear and hunger pangs

Queers, transgends, and lesbians, vegan kids and vegetarians
All you brownish red and yellow ones come and join us on the coast

No longer svelte, they gotta punch new holes in the Bible belt
They've blown out the fire under the melting pot, the red blood of America is starting to clot
No compromise, no sight through others' eyes, they're just flies spreading pieces of shit
You gotta emigrate, stop living in hate, what makes this country great is dwelling on either side

They don't want visitors in Jesusland
They want life canned and bland in the fatherland

We want people with college degrees, drug use experience and STD's
People with open-minded philosophies, come hug California trees
Cultural revolution now, neo-conservatives run outta town
We're gonna burn Orange County down,
And then we're off to Riverside, Bakersfield and Fresno too, then we're coming after you

The fear stricken, born again Christian, they got a vision a homogenized state
Textbook decline, Intelligent Design
They got Bill Nye on the list to execrate.

They don't want visitors in Jesusland
They want life canned and bland in the fatherland

Punk Rockers and emo kids, people doing things the church forbids
Buddhists, agnostics, and atheists we're moving out of jesusland
Art students and thespians, excluding country, all the musicians
We want all hookers and comedians, nihilists are welcome too

No longer svelte, they gotta punch new holes in the Bible belt

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[dennis]

Actually there has been no other person like Jesus in history.There is more factual evidence that he walked the earth than about anyone else.No other one name in history brings about so much controversy and discussion.Why do you think the threads that discuss this topic get so many hit's???It should make you uncomfortable to discuss his name/validity , this is from the Holy Spirit who lives among us working inside you.Jesus calls to each of us,he will not kick down your door though,BUT he knocks patiently and waits.

 

[Bridger]

Actually there has been no other person like Jesus in history.There is more factual evidence that he walked the earth than about anyone else.No other one name in history brings about so much controversy and discussion.Why do you think the threads that discuss this topic get so many hit's???It should make you uncomfortable to discuss his name/validity , this is from the Holy Spirit who lives among us working inside you.Jesus calls to each of us,he will not kick down your door though,BUT he knocks patiently and waits.

Allow me to clarify. I don't doubt some dude name jesus christ lived at some time. tons of your hated mexicans are called jesus, maybe even with a last name of christ. Mexicans are extremely poor and humble, just like jesus. So, okay jesus christ lived and walked the earth. But son of god? probably not. Born of a virgin mother? nope. People believed that for centuries because they didn't know any better. Knowledge of basic human biology or other unknown phenomena(later explained by science) was explained to the people by religious leaders who got their knowledge from the bible and prayer. When they had no real explanation they called it the hand of god. Sorry but religion doesn't have a great track record for reliable and valid explanations.

Just curious, what factual evidence can you show for proof of his existence? As i said before, there very well couldve been a jesus christ in history. But not a son of god.

 

[dennis]

Firts let me say..I don't hate mexicans..I live amongst them,work with them,have many mexican/chicano friends.The influx of illegal immagration is what I have a problem with.Unsecure borders during times like these is not a wise idea.History proves jesus walked on this earth as it does with many famous individuals from that period.Millions heard him preach.It comes down to every man will hear his name and many will reject him.We all have a choice to make in life.Can you see that we have a creator ??Or do you think all this stuff around us just happened by itself??

 

[bigrobbie]

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[Bridger]

Firts let me say..I don't hate mexicans..I live amongst them,work with them,have many mexican/chicano friends.The influx of illegal immagration is what I have a problem with.Unsecure borders during times like these is not a wise idea.History proves jesus walked on this earth as it does with many famous individuals from that period.Millions heard him preach.It comes down to every man will hear his name and many will reject him.We all have a choice to make in life.Can you see that we have a creator ??Or do you think all this stuff around us just happened by itself??

The world we live in now is the product of evolution. Changes that occurred on the cellular level over millions or billions of years.

Who created the creator? according to your argument, commonly called the watchmaker analogy, that something as complex as a watch or life on earth is so complex has to have been created by something that it doesn't happen on accident. Well, if a creator created life on earth, which is no easy task, who created the creator? Does he have a god that created him or doesn't he need one because he just miraculously appeared at the beginning of time?

 

[dennis]

God has always been and always will be.He is the alpha and the omega..this is what I believe bro.And like I said earlier..not all will believe.

 

[bigrobbie]

God has always been and always will be.He is the alpha and the omega..this is what I believe bro.And like I said earlier..not all will believe.

I decided about 2 years ago to just tell people you believe or you don't. When you are born again you still have questions, we will never understand it all, but you just know that you know and believe what you believe...doubt kinda falls away. I don't question that Jesus is salvation, I don't live like I should, but I know what I know....