new member..questions

[Memnoch]

Hey all. I am relatively new to aas and have 1 test only cycle under my belt. 200mg/wk for 10 weeks. Even at the low dose I got great results. Stats are:

36 yo, 185 lbs, 15%bf, lifting/training off and on 20 years.

I have been using elite fitness forums for advice and not sure they have my best interest in mind, so I decided to come here and see what you guys suggest. I picked up a stash of aas from a friend who was unloading everything he had. what I got was this:

6cc of sust 300.
26 dbol 50mg
40 anadrol 50
12 ml trenbolone acetate. ( i believe 300mg/ml, I have to double check)

I was thinking to stack like this:
1-10 180mg sust (2 90mg injects mon and thurs)
1-4 25mg dbol ed (taken in two doses daily)
1-10 50mg tren ed
1-10 aromasin eod

I have clomid on hand to run 4 weeks at 25/25/25/25 starting 21 days from last pin.

Over at elite they push NTBM supps. I have post cycle and will be stacking with unleashed while running the clomid during PCT. I will also use forma stanzol during pct to control estrogen.

I was advised that running such a low dose of test is a waste. I have read here that stacking tren with d-bol is excellent. I had great results with a low dose of test on its own, and experienced minimal shutdown. I am thinking with this stack I could see even better results. Comments or questions welcome. Is it better to only run the tren while taking the d-bol and then ride out the sust? I am trying to get more sust by researching sources to up the dose to about 300mg a week. If I have luck I will certainly be doing this.

I may be way off base with this, I am sure someone here will put me in my place if I am.

Mem

 

[Sworder]

Looks alright! I would add 500IU hCG/week throughout and also cut down the cycle length to 8 weeks. Your PCT is rather weak. Nolva(20mg ED) and Clomid(50mg ED) would be a stronger PCT for 4 weeks. Why not run the masin during PCT instead of the "forma stanzol"?

 

[Memnoch]

I am going off of info I got from another forum. I was told that the test ran that low was a waste of time. Also told that I should run an AI during cycle, that the forma is enough for pct. I can get some nolva, but again the other forum claims nolva is old school and a waste.

If I cut the cycle to 8 weeks should I up the test dosage accordingly so I use it up? would be 225mg/week.

I will also be using milk thistle and maybe liv52 while on to protect the liver from the dbol. 25mg is a lower dose, better safe than sorry.

 

[Memnoch]

was also told that test run less than 10 weeks was a waste, regardless of ester length.

 

[Sworder]

Yes, your testosterone dosage is low but you are running 350mg Tren too You write that it is 300mg Tren Ace although I am very uncertain that is the case. Double check as you probably have Tren Enanthate and x2 weekly injections will suffice.


Have the AI(aromasin) on hand and use as needed. 12.5mg ED if you notice undesirable bloat/gyno issues, increase/decrease as needed. The testosterone won't really cause that much aromatase activity but the dianabol will. If you notice estro sides in the beginning it is from the dianabol and you might want to discontinue the AI after the dianabol. Nolva/clomid combo has reigned supreme and there is a reason to why certain "old school" compounds are used i.e. testosterone, dianabol. They work!

 

[Memnoch]

thank you for the info sworder. I will double check the strength of the tren, I will also get nolva to go with my clomid for PCT. I won't be starting til Oct at the earliest so I have time. I will post up here when I start and track progress. I have heard great things about tren, but have also heard the sides can be a bitch. anything I should have on hand for them?

 

[Sworder]

thank you for the info sworder. I will double check the strength of the tren, I will also get nolva to go with my clomid for PCT. I won't be starting til Oct at the earliest so I have time. I will post up here when I start and track progress. I have heard great things about tren, but have also heard the sides can be a bitch. anything I should have on hand for them?

No problem! Sounds good, can't really recommend anything for the sides. I get some acne on my back. That's pretty much it.

 

[Jagger34]

A lot of guys nowadays are running lowish test with high Tren to avoid the common Tren sides. If that is your plan then your test dose would be fine but would need to up the Tren a bit (500 mg or so per week).

 

[Pericles]

You are going to want more test...run about 500mg per week. Orals look good.

Tren is a fantastic drug but keep in mind it is 5 times more androgenic than test. It is also hard on the kidney. However it will change your body more than pretty much anything.

 

[Memnoch]

the guy I got it from said that nothing smooths you out and hardens up the muscle like tren will. He did mention the kidneys so I was going to grab some dandelion root to go with my milk thistle.

I am looking for more test as we speak. Had one online source get squirrly so I reversed the WU in time to get my money back. Research, research, and then more research!

I dont think I will stress though if I cant find more test. I am not trying to be a competitive body builder, so only putting on another 10lbs of retainable mass is ok with me. I am really looking for the hardening effect of the tren. Ever since my shoulder surgery my body doesnt respond as well to diet and exercise only. I put on and kept almost 20 lbs of muscle with just the 200mg a week test cyp cycle i did. I know diet is key when on.

 

[Memnoch]

@sworder...I was told the tren is 300mg per cc. It is a homebrew from a competitive strongman up in the boston area. No name was divulged to me! hahaha. I do trust the guy it came from, met him in kindergarten and we have been friends since. He has used from this batch. I will play it safe with the dosing though and stick to 60mg a day. that will make dosing easy as each .1 should be 30mg. If I dont notice what I should be I will up it.