Most intense pre-workout/energy OTC supp?

badrouter

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Considering picking up something for an energy/focus boost OTC. There are a million options obviously. Wondering which ones are the most intense (whether you prefer them or not)?
 
Bostin Loyd's "Freak Juice" is the best preworkout I've ever used.

this is why:

found this @ Bb.com

"Here are the ingredients, I found them on youtube since Boston Loyd wouldn't even put them on his website...

1500mg L-arginine AKG 2:1, 1000mg creatine dimalate, 3g beta alanine, 400mg potassium bicarbonate, 200mg sodium bicarbonate, 25mg ephedra, 35mg 1,3 dimethyl, 50mg white willow bark, 100mg bitter blocker, 400mg caffeine anhydrous, 144mg sucralose, 800mg citric acid, 120mg hubersorbsorb

Aspirine is sold as "white willow bark"...not a chance that stuff comes from a bark..it's just a semi legal loophole to sell a medicament (no idea about the legal status of aspirine in the US, but I guess you can't just buy it in a supermarket)

35mg 1,3 dimethyl which is DMAA and banned
25mg ephedra which is also a semi legal way for selling chemically synthesized ephedrine...just put on the name of the herb...
400mg caffeine anhydrous which is also quite the high dosis

so yeah this stuff shouldn't legally be available on the market
good look taking several substances which will increase your blood pressure along one that makes it thinner
if you got any blood/blood pressure related problems this can be a very dangerous booster besides making you test positive if you compete in tested feds"
 
this is why:

found this @ Bb.com

"Here are the ingredients, I found them on youtube since Boston Loyd wouldn't even put them on his website...

1500mg L-arginine AKG 2:1, 1000mg creatine dimalate, 3g beta alanine, 400mg potassium bicarbonate, 200mg sodium bicarbonate, 25mg ephedra, 35mg 1,3 dimethyl, 50mg white willow bark, 100mg bitter blocker, 400mg caffeine anhydrous, 144mg sucralose, 800mg citric acid, 120mg hubersorbsorb

Aspirine is sold as "white willow bark"...not a chance that stuff comes from a bark..it's just a semi legal loophole to sell a medicament (no idea about the legal status of aspirine in the US, but I guess you can't just buy it in a supermarket)

35mg 1,3 dimethyl which is DMAA and banned
25mg ephedra which is also a semi legal way for selling chemically synthesized ephedrine...just put on the name of the herb...
400mg caffeine anhydrous which is also quite the high dosis

so yeah this stuff shouldn't legally be available on the market
good look taking several substances which will increase your blood pressure along one that makes it thinner
if you got any blood/blood pressure related problems this can be a very dangerous booster besides making you test positive if you compete in tested feds"
I've been taking one scoop just about every day for around 3 months.. It's expensive as shit but it's so potent and a container comes with so much that it lasts forever. I've never bought any other preworkout supplement that lasted me this long.
 
I've been taking one scoop just about every day for around 3 months.. It's expensive as shit but it's so potent and a container comes with so much that it lasts forever. I've never bought any other preworkout supplement that lasted me this long.

You can make 100 servings of the exact same dose for about $100 if not more servings.
 
looking at it more there isnt anything expensive in it at all outside of the Dmaa. re evaluating the price u can get the same thing for less then 40$ and almost 5x as many servings.

If making it is worth your time, if not its all preferences.
 
I am suspicious that he is putting ephedra in this product.

It is a banned substance in my state I cant even buy bronkaid, how does he get off selling this with it in it? The dmaa I understand but I suspect since supplements are generally unregulated he is more then likely lying on the label and there is no Ephedra in it and all of the intensity comes from the DMAA which is EXTREMELY STRONG.
 
Lucky guy. I checked HR last night just relaxing at home. 80-90. :(
Yeah my average resting heart rate is around 75bpm. Didn't think that was too crazy. I have had some blood pressure scares though, I'd be lying if I said otherwise. Oddly enough I think this preworkout sort of calms that down though.. It's gotta be the aspirin in if. Or "white willow bark".
 
I am suspicious that he is putting ephedra in this product.

It is a banned substance in my state I cant even buy bronkaid, how does he get off selling this with it in it? The dmaa I understand but I suspect since supplements are generally unregulated he is more then likely lying on the label and there is no Ephedra in it and all of the intensity comes from the DMAA which is EXTREMELY STRONG.
I'm not sure but I would like to know.
 
if you feel you are dependent...

Dmaa shows up as meth on piss tests for a reason. Chemically it is very similar.
 
if you feel you are dependent...

Dmaa shows up as meth on piss tests for a reason. Chemically it is very similar.
Well I used to do a lot of meth and other amphetamines so I can assure you they're not in the same realm. I think my adrenal glands have just taken a beating so it takes a bit extra to give me that boost now. And of course every substance used in excess can cause a bit of a dependency.
 
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