Thank you Bill. One more thing: which method is better according to you - this how you described it above or the crystal extraction method with methyl alcohol. I heard opinions that with the BA/BB only method, the final product kinda hurts when injected.
Also can you give me some insight about proportions? I read from various sources that the ratio of BA/BB should be 2/20 and from other sources I read that for 20 ml of oil with one cartridge of fina, you should prepare about 3 ml of solvent ( 0, 75 ml BA and 2,25 ml BB) but this quantity is not exactly in 2/20 ratio.
Also should I heat the final solution for final sterilization or is there no need?
And after the preparation is ready, can I store it in room temperature?
My preferred method is this:
Hi Bill, what's the simplest safe way to make a Finaplix preparation? A) To each 100 pellets -- nominally 2 g of trenbolone acetate -- add 38 mL of Wesson
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I haven't tried a methanol-based method in probably 12 years but my recollection is that definitely it dissolves all of the brown-colored binder, and so does not at all separate that out; with the filler I tend to think it does not dissolve all or perhaps any of the filler and so does allow separating out some of that.
I don't think a methanol step is necessary. It doesn't remove any of the brown-colored binder: this dissolves right into the methanol. It may (I don't recall as it has been at least 12 years since I've tried a method which included methanol) allow separating out some filler, but the above method doesn't need for that to be done first.
There is no importance to ratio between BA and BB, but rather for each there is importance to the percentage relative to the entire preparation including oil.
For 20 mL of final preparation, 20% BB is reasonable and amounts to 4 mL.
2% BA amounts to 0.4 mL.
A disadvantage of including BA and BB prior to filtration is that these allow some binder to dissolve into the preparation.
An advantage of including them is that a higher concentration can be obtained. If for example wishing to inject 75 mg/day, it can be an added convenience to have a 75 mg/mL preparation, though an alternate approach is to inject 1 mL of a 50 mg/mL preparation each 16 hours or thereabouts: the exact timing is not important so long as it is 3 injections divided into 2 days.
But certainly the 75 mg/mL preparation will simplify and reduce injections in the above example.
An advantage of the 50 mg/mL concentration is that incidence of "tren cough" certainly seems to me to be far less.
I don't use heat for sterilization afterwards, as with clean handling and the submicron filtration it is not necessary, but heating briefly to an internal oil temperature (inside the vial) of say 70 C as a maximum would be okay if having any question. Heating trenbolone acetate tends to cause it to brown, though if very little oxygen is present (the vial is nearly full: it will have to be vented for example with an insulin syringe stuck into it with no plunger) maybe that isn't so much of an issue.
That is better accomplished with a water bath of the desired temperature than with baking at a higher air temperature, which gives very little control and very little knowledge of the internal oil temperature, unless leaving in so long as to actually achieve the same temperature as the oven, which ordinarily is excessively high by those who like baking (it seems to make some feel good, perhaps in a Martha Stewart sort of way.) If I were going to use oven-applied heat, I'd do it simply at the Warming setting such as 150 degrees F and allow say an hour. But really with proper handling methods and submicron filtration there is no need for the heat.
Storage should be at room temperature or cooler and it may well be best to keep in a dark place. I do notice a tendency for trenbolone acetate solutions to darken with time, which indicates chemical change, though not necessarily of very much of the compound.
Preparation being kept for ongoing use should be at room temperature. Larger amounts being stored would ideally be refrigerated or frozen. When needing to be used, they should be taken out at least a day before use is needed, so as to allow precipitated material to redissolve. Occasional light shaking or swirling may be required.
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