LOGAN's RUN BEGINS - Canadian assisted suicide... On the loose..

[Doodle]

I'm getting older and I've watched alot of people die. Do you think it's better to live through the pain until hospice puts you down with morphine or oxy and you spend the last week unconscious with no food or water?

Make no mistake we have assisted suicide already but we make you take the pain first.

Watching my dad die painfully was traumatizing. He was on a lot of medicine and even that didn’t help the last few weeks. He had no control of his body. He couldn’t breathe. If he wanted to go before that time, I would support it.

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I think it’s important to note that people who truly wish to die don’t know that it’s “selfish”. They simply want to stop hurting. Stop the mental pain. I think it’s selfish of OTHERS to make that person continue living. I don’t think it should happen Willy nilly though. I think they should try therapy and medicine first. But if those don’t work, let them leave the pain behind.

 

[Rido]

They always have had some sort of healthcare worker assisted suicide for many many years.

It may be in hospice but you would be surprised how many times they have to decide between giving them that drug that alleviates their suffering and possibly killing them

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letting them die a slower more painful death.


I am all for dying with dignity. Have some people with pancreatic cancer or ALS that want to die a proper death before their disease takes them and their family can watch them fall apart.

Liberal or conservative it's hard to watch your love one fall apart before your eyes.

Also some of us are also ok with taking a gun to the head if the worse came, but we don't want to be remembered that way

 

[Rido]

Watching my dad die painfully was traumatizing. He was on a lot of medicine and even that didn’t help the last few weeks. He had no control of his body. He couldn’t breathe. If he wanted to go before that time, I would support it.

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I think it’s important to note that people who truly wish to die don’t know that it’s “selfish”. They simply want to stop hurting. Stop the mental pain. I think it’s selfish of OTHERS to make that person continue living. I don’t think it should happen Willy nilly though. I think they should try therapy and medicine first. But if those don’t work, let them leave the pain behind.

I am sorry you had to go through that.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

AGENDA 21 may indeed be in full swing. If you look at all the people dying now its Mind boggling. Today I noted that they just not publicized Sinbad's condition after having two blood clot related strokes in the last 2 years (and what does that correlate with?!)?!. Hell, I start to wonder if the rumors about anyone taking the vaccine will be dead in a certain amount of years. I keep seeing articles about young adolescents dieing in sports. The worst part of it all is that as time marches on, less and less people make the connection. The final slap in the face being them still pushing the vaccine. I think I posted on it the other day. But it's finally gone public that there is a direct and clear association of foot long blood clots with mRNA vaccines and the shit is just starting to hit the fat for this. Legitimate physicians are starting to get involved. This was not surprise to me because I know a friend that spoke with a mortician that told him this was happening two years ago... And the guy told me that these blood clots he was pulling out of people were "Difficult to cut with a scalpel"

The guy who helped develop mrna vaccines said it can do damage to your cardio vascular system in a lecture about why kids shouldnt take it

 

[BBC3]

They always have had some sort of healthcare worker assisted suicide for many many years.

It may be in hospice but you would be surprised how many times they have to decide between giving them that drug that alleviates their suffering and possibly killing them

Vs

letting them die a slower more painful death.


I am all for dying with dignity. Have some people with pancreatic cancer or ALS that want to die a proper death before their disease takes them and their family can watch them fall apart.

Liberal or conservative it's hard to watch your love one fall apart before your eyes.

Also some of us are also ok with taking a gun to the head if the worse came, but we don't want to be remembered that way

You mentioned "dying with dignity" ... As fat as I am concerned we should live till we are about 25 years old, and then meet up with a younger male either weilding a gun or a knife and take out lives in fair battle. So there is no "dying with dignity today". We are living in an artificial enhanced and emulated world these days not unlike Roman times. TO DIE A DEATH WITH TRUE HONOR IS MUCH HARDED TO COME BY NOW...

 

[BBC3]

The guy who helped develop mrna vaccines said it can do damage to your cardio vascular system in a lecture about why kids shouldnt take it

Yea and the most amazing part is I just saw the FDA approve the new combo Covid Vacccine for kids under 5.. Just disturbing.. Like I said when I was in my kids juvenile docs office the other day and asked them how everyone was doing with the vax and Covid in general. They were kinda like "Alright". Then I asked them "did they commit the "CRIMINAL OFFENSE" of giving a child under 5 the vaccine and they laughed at me and basically said HELL NO... And I said it JUST LIKE THAT... THank GOD the American people still stand. In some states at least...

I know people who's 1 year olds got ALPHA and DELTA and shook it off in a few days flat. This whole thing is so disturbing on so many levels...

 

[Rido]

You mentioned "dying with dignity" ... As fat as I am concerned we should live till we are about 25 years old, and then meet up with a younger male either weilding a gun or a knife and take out lives in fair battle. So there is no "dying with dignity today". We are living in an artificial enhanced and emulated world these days not unlike Roman times. TO DIE A DEATH WITH TRUE HONOR IS MUCH HARDED TO COME BY NOW...

dying at your own terms instead of a disease slowly wasting away at your body would still give me dignity over my family seeing my crippled self. to each is their own.

either that or I would OD on insulin before some disease makes me wither away over the course of 3 months

 

[Eman]

Really don’t understand what you’re arguing here…like a lot of your posts..

Nobody here has opposed the idea of assisted self suicide, just the idea of the state having a hand in it. So..what exactly are you saying?

What he's trying to say is that we already have "assisted suicide" in that hospice or a hospital will let you die, albeit slowly.

However, that logic is absurd because it's the whole argument FOR assisted suicide. The line between medically killing someone and letting them die is already pretty blurry in real life much of the time.

 

[BBC3]

dying at your own terms instead of a disease slowly wasting away at your body would still give me dignity over my family seeing my crippled self. to each is their own.

either that or I would OD on insulin before some disease makes me wither away over the course of 3 months

You really should NOT say these things out loud....

 

[Rido]

You really should NOT say these things out loud....

Nah, I have told this to my family, friends, and coworkers. I have no reason to. Just saying if I did...


I have met someone with Leukemia.. he said if it wasnt for his kids he would have went out back with a gun and shot himself but he is living for them.

One of the most coolest people I have met.

 

[BBC3]

Nah, I have told this to my family, friends, and coworkers. I have no reason to. Just saying if I did...


I have met someone with Leukemia.. he said if it wasnt for his kids he would have went out back with a gun and shot himself but he is living for them.

One of the most coolest people I have met.

No my point was giving these new ideas. I've personally witnessed a diabetic go overboard on insulin. The time she nearly died I was not there. But just watching the OD I saw it was like she was drunk and knew not what was going on. YOU JUST GAVE ME ANOTHER IDEA TO CONSIDER. I was just saying its bad press..

I wonder what would be worse. An opioid overdose or an insulin overdose.

They may actually be one in the same as far as the brain is concerned is all I am saying..

 

[BBC3]

This is off-topic of the tread (I think) and I'm just going to say in now. I'm thinking a suicide thread should be started in the essence of making folks thing it thru. Actually, thats exactly what this thread was about so maybe it just needs some "Re-Titleing"...

But ending ones own life is such a serious and profound topic that it is certainly taboo. If you try to research suicide rates you will find that they leave these statistics about 5 years behind at least. And that is even if what they publish is accurate.

The concept of suicide is so powerful its incomprehensible. And what the powers that be do not want you to realize is WHAT POWER YOU HOLD ONCE YOU DECIDE. Ranging from Japanese Kamikaze pilots to Arabs on a Jihadi mission - YOU BECOME A SERIOUS THREAT TO THOSE THAT OPPOSE YOU. So of course Govts. would love to control and encourage it if possible. And simply to contain the notion.

There are many false notions today where you hear about people shooting places up. Yet they actually failed to REALIZE and ACTUALIZE their "Deserving targets". They just simply break and take out whatever is in their path on that way.

There are pros and cons to those realizing what their fate may be and how to effect if most efficiacly. PERSONALLY, I would not want to be gunned down in the mall because some bullies pushed someone over, or the IRS pissed them off and ruinied their lives, and for any reason I was undeserving.... It really dates back to real human life and with wild wild west. And yet society has confused us as to what POWER WE HOLD OVER WHAT IS FAIR AND JUST TREATMENT OF US...... And more importantly JUST WHO deserves what they got coming to them...!!!

And make no mistake speaking about these topics and attempting to get peoples heads back in the right state is a HOT TOPIC INDEED. My goal here is not to agitate folks and get people going round taking out their enemies. Its to make people take stock of their lives, consider all their loved ones and what they really care about, and begin to have more consideration in their daily lives for the others around them and recognize what is important to them...