I would like to know what those of you who support trump will do when he loses the election?

There will be a civil war fought if it keeps happening.
I see your point in this but there’s no way republicans will just stand aside and watch them rig election after election.
remember that we’re the ones with legal guns who practice using them, not in drive by shootings. And we’re generally the ones who support the US military and police force. If a civil war is fought this side is taking over.
I shouldn't have stated a civil war. I do think you'll see far right groups that will start bombing specific targets or carrying out assassinations.

I don't think these people want to kill average American citizens, they just want to kill those not on the right.

The guns are coming out, they're getting more vocal, they won't hesitate to blow your brains out if you get in their way. So the streets are gonna be more confrontational with far right groups showing up heavily armed looking for any excuse to itch the trigger.

One thing is certain, this country under Trump hasn't improved. I've never seen such division, with one group under Trump supporting all forms of Military and Police State, Kissing Cop Ass relentlessly while reading off passages of the bible that tell us to obey authority because Jebus is coming any second and his chosen one Trump is here to save the day......, these people are lunatics.
 
"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

One of your finest presidents said that, and I think that it's an important message for people to remember in the current political climate. Supporting partisan politics and those who push them is just contributing to the problem.

You're all countrymen; this "Us vs. Them" mentality isn't helping anyone at the end of the day.
 
I agree with test subject.
you see my problem is with people who only see one side of things. NGNM wants to blame trump for the countries division. Not the citizens who are doing the dividing. The separating of race because right now Black Lives Matter and if you’re white you’re a cop. The fact that we literally have to separate because of a virus. None of which is Trumps fault. People like to blame one side for things that we could resolve together as one. regardless of views. I have friends who are democratic and live in section 8 housing and I have friends that are republican and live in half a million dollar condos and we all get along just fine. This separation is coming from social media, news outlets, and ignorance. People who can’t grasp that we don’t live in this perfect utopia and bad things happen so they blame and incite riots to solve problems.
 
I agree with test subject.
you see my problem is with people who only see one side of things. NGNM wants to blame trump for the countries division. Not the citizens who are doing the dividing. The separating of race because right now Black Lives Matter and if you’re white you’re a cop. The fact that we literally have to separate because of a virus. None of which is Trumps fault. People like to blame one side for things that we could resolve together as one. regardless of views. I have friends who are democratic and live in section 8 housing and I have friends that are republican and live in half a million dollar condos and we all get along just fine. This separation is coming from social media, news outlets, and ignorance. People who can’t grasp that we don’t live in this perfect utopia and bad things happen so they blame and incite riots to solve problems.
We've always been a nation divided along class, race, religion.

Social Media gives voice to those that otherwise would have no voice and this pisses those off at the top. No one likes to run a fortune 500 and be reminded that he fucks people in the ass for a living.

These rich cocksuckers want to enjoy fine wine in peace and quite and it's always been the American way to respect and adore those at the top of the food chain. Those days are over, people are more then willing to speak up and call out. The problem is they latch onto screwball organizations and political ideologies, go around calling each other comrade. Instead of directly confronting the problem, they're making it worse by bringing in a bunch of shit no one cares about it, like what color your skin is, your goofy religion, or your sexual identity.
 
We've always been a nation divided along class, race, religion.

Social Media gives voice to those that otherwise would have no voice and this pisses those off at the top. No one likes to run a fortune 500 and be reminded that he fucks people in the ass for a living.

These rich cocksuckers want to enjoy fine wine in peace and quite and it's always been the American way to respect and adore those at the top of the food chain. Those days are over, people are more then willing to speak up and call out. The problem is they latch onto screwball organizations and political ideologies, go around calling each other comrade. Instead of directly confronting the problem, they're making it worse by bringing in a bunch of shit no one cares about it, like what color your skin is, your goofy religion, or your sexual identity.
People put too much of their worth in things like money and class and that’s the real issue. If someone spent their whole life trying to attain status then they deserve to enjoy it. That’s not the life that I want so I don’t give a shit. I let them enjoy their life. People want to do fucking nothing and collect welfare but think they deserve a Fortune 500 company owners life style. Get the fuck outta here.
 
Whaty
Tarrifs destroyed my business. Tore my company apart. Him repealing Obama care without any replacement puts my wife at risk of loosing her Healthcare. And eventually her life..

When covid was serious he lied and said it was nothing. Now here I am 3 jobs later all closed down due to he virus. No help in sight and all everyone is screaming about is some bullshit made up stolen election.

Trump fucked the pooch. And he made 80 plus million people vote for the sleepy creepy.
Trump's own actions brought this on. Instead of making it a red or blue thing. We're all Americans facing the same shit. But no he and his base make so personal like only they matter well guess what. That shit is over. Cry about a stolen election all you want. You Have to be detached from reality if you really believe he was doing anywhere near a good job when people are loosing it all.
Red or Blue.

I've never seen a more devisive person or base than Trump or his. He was useless as a leader period. Helping the rich get richer is not an achievement.
Crying like a bitch when we need real leadership is no an achievement. He's literally done nothing for most working people except cost them their jobs houses and costing lives with his ignorance and denial.

That's why he lost. He sucks at leading. He lacks basic intelligence and follows quack political therories that makes him some imaginary savior.. His narcissistic behavior is unpatriotic in every way.

The way he despises our vets and makes a mockery of their service. His lack of policy and know how of government workings is laughable at best.
His daughter has exclusive patents in China but we talk about hunter Biden (where's the laptop at again?).
He drains the US government for unprecedented number of golf trips to all his properties lining his own pockets with government cash. But my business had to suffer the fate of a failed trade war..

I haven't thought anything through?? Maybe you haven thought at all? Or are so detached from reality you dont care to know why he really lost?

Or is it that your one of those taken care of by someone else and you don't have to see the daily struggles of normal people to know wh he lost?

Sounds about right.


I could go on for days

You were importing things from china to run your business?
 
Whaty


You were importing things from china to run your business?
It wasn't just China. Canada was hit with ill-conceived tariffs, as well.

And you'd be surprised (or not) that most US businesses import Chinese goods. It's the norm, not the exception. Consumers are all about "made in the USA" until they have to pay the price on the tags of domestic goods.

Rampant consumerism essentially guarantees that, eventually, most goods are outsourced either in part or entirely to countries with lower production costs. The sort of mindless consumerism that keeps the modern day markets going isn't sustainable without cheap, readily available goods that need to be replaced often.

Western countries can either continue to buy from China or drive down our standard of living to try to compete with their manufacturing. It's a shitty situation that's driven by an unsustainable business model of "more for less". Things aren't going to change without a complete overhaul of consumer culture and businesses accepting less-than-optimal profits in order to revive North American manufacturing. Right now, there's no impetus to do that since they make more money paying into China's economy.
 
People put too much of their worth in things like money and class and that’s the real issue. If someone spent their whole life trying to attain status then they deserve to enjoy it. That’s not the life that I want so I don’t give a shit. I let them enjoy their life. People want to do fucking nothing and collect welfare but think they deserve a Fortune 500 company owners life style. Get the fuck outta here.
The problem is our political system is bought off by the .001%.

So while this covid shutdown has cost many people their jobs and lives, many people will end up in ruin, possibly suicide.

The CEO of companies that asked for covid bailouts, these executives walked off with billions in golden parachutes, as their employees were showed the door and told to get the fuck out.

You've been trained and brainwashed to never point out that corporate welfare is the most parasitic of all welfare. The wino in the trash can is of little concern, take a look at these scumbags that ask for government help constantly and then allow their top brass to walk off with more money than a thousand people combined will make in a lifetime if they worked 80+hrs a week.

Covid stimulus right now is being packaged up again not to help those harmed, but once again another bailout for wallstreet and the top .001% of this county. And they have no choice, it was the filthy rich that put these scumbag politicians in power.

The super rich have gamed the system. I don't respect most of these money men because they provide no value added. If you're a PhD Engineer that came up with something that revolutionized the world, then you have something coming. If you're just some rich cunt that played around with other peoples money taking risks and got lucky and walk off with $100,000,000 at the age of 25, I fail to see why we shouldn't question such a system, because most people have to bust their ass and contribute something in order to earn their dollar.
 
It wasn't just China. Canada was hit with ill-conceived tariffs, as well.

And you'd be surprised (or not) that most US businesses import Chinese goods. It's the norm, not the exception. Consumers are all about "made in the USA" until they have to pay the price on the tags of domestic goods.

Rampant consumerism essentially guarantees that, eventually, most goods are outsourced either in part or entirely to countries with lower production costs. The sort of mindless consumerism that keeps the modern day markets going isn't sustainable without cheap, readily available goods that need to be replaced often.

Western countries can either continue to buy from China or drive down our standard of living to try to compete with their manufacturing. It's a shitty situation that's driven by an unsustainable business model of "more for less". Things aren't going to change without a complete overhaul of consumer culture and businesses accepting less-than-optimal profits in order to revive North American manufacturing. Right now, there's no impetus to do that since they make more money paying into China's economy.
When NAFTA started up and extremely cheap Asian goods flooded the market, that combined with easy credit and large footprint homes allowed the American consumer bonanza.

It was a perfect storm.

When I think back to the 70's and 80's that I grew up in, our homes had very little in them. Basic stuff, a small TV, record player/cassette, alarm clock. There was no internet to shop from, there was mailorder, but that didn't cover the huge market we have online, you could pick up stuff at the mall, but most people couldn't afford to buy more then they needed.

People simply didn't own much back then, even going back to the 50's when average homes were <1000sqft, even though they had larger families then a kid would today, that forced them to own even less.

Consumer culture has created a vast garbage dump, we all know how this works on a chemical called dopamine in our brains. It's not that difficult to drastically decrease consumerism, it's just that most people are sleep walking through life.
 
It wasn't just China. Canada was hit with ill-conceived tariffs, as well.

And you'd be surprised (or not) that most US businesses import Chinese goods. It's the norm, not the exception. Consumers are all about "made in the USA" until they have to pay the price on the tags of domestic goods.

Rampant consumerism essentially guarantees that, eventually, most goods are outsourced either in part or entirely to countries with lower production costs. The sort of mindless consumerism that keeps the modern day markets going isn't sustainable without cheap, readily available goods that need to be replaced often.

Western countries can either continue to buy from China or drive down our standard of living to try to compete with their manufacturing. It's a shitty situation that's driven by an unsustainable business model of "more for less". Things aren't going to change without a complete overhaul of consumer culture and businesses accepting less-than-optimal profits in order to revive North American manufacturing. Right now, there's no impetus to do that since they make more money paying into China's economy.
$15/hr minimum wage should take care of thato_O
 
The problem is our political system is bought off by the .001%.

So while this covid shutdown has cost many people their jobs and lives, many people will end up in ruin, possibly suicide.

The CEO of companies that asked for covid bailouts, these executives walked off with billions in golden parachutes, as their employees were showed the door and told to get the fuck out.

You've been trained and brainwashed to never point out that corporate welfare is the most parasitic of all welfare. The wino in the trash can is of little concern, take a look at these scumbags that ask for government help constantly and then allow their top brass to walk off with more money than a thousand people combined will make in a lifetime if they worked 80+hrs a week.

Covid stimulus right now is being packaged up again not to help those harmed, but once again another bailout for wallstreet and the top .001% of this county. And they have no choice, it was the filthy rich that put these scumbag politicians in power.

The super rich have gamed the system. I don't respect most of these money men because they provide no value added. If you're a PhD Engineer that came up with something that revolutionized the world, then you have something coming. If you're just some rich cunt that played around with other peoples money taking risks and got lucky and walk off with $100,000,000 at the age of 25, I fail to see why we shouldn't question such a system, because most people have to bust their ass and contribute something in order to earn their dollar.
Yeah, the system is flawed but you can’t hate the ones that get lucky. There’s a saying that you have to fuck people over to get rich and that does point one to believe the system is fucked but just because someone has their mind set on money so they play the system in their favor or get lucky isn’t really a reason to hate them in my opinion. I take pride in working hard to provide. I don’t expect to ever be rich and I don’t care but some people are brainwashed by money. They want cool cars and lake side condos and all the dumb slutty girls that come out of the wood work when you attain money. If you take the cards you were delt and make what you want out of them, I respect that. Everyone should be able to create the life they want to live. I personally don’t see a reason to hate someone because they’re creating what they want out of what’s around them.

the whole covid scam I agree with you on though. This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous and is beginning to look more and more like an attempt to destroy the general population.
 
Lol the guy who sells the covid tests says it’s a hoax
Looks like they just took the video off youtube.
He's not the only one saying that covid is a scam. Lots of doctors, microbiologists, etc. say the same thing, even a top guy from Phizer, but lots of us knew that right from the beginning.

It is a political tactic, a method of control. Many people are being devastated. How the hell are people supposed to survive when everything they have is invested in a business and they are not allowed to operate?

I heard that execution by means other than lethal injection was recently put back into law. There are many power mad politicians that deserve to be lined up against a wall. THAT would put the brakes on some of this treason and corruption.
 
The Covid problem in hindsight offers a lot of good lessons that are hard for people to accept.

The basic solution was to do absolutely nothing, just let the shit roll through and be done with it. My entire family had Covid a few months back. It was less than the flu that I've had and that shit will really knock you on your ass. I spent a few days in bead, pounding head ache, lost my smell, felt sick to my stomach, and some general inflammation that took a week to go away before I felt like exercising again and I'm almost 50 years old, with lousy genetics.

Yes the old, weak, obese, might no make it, but that's just the way it is.

This bullshit about vaccinating the public in mass has really got me pissed off, because working in healthcare for 25 years, when Obama Care mandated that we all get vaccinated every stinking year. You lose your autonomy, cattle being run through a chute and you can't trust these assholes making these vaccines.

If a vaccine is made using mRNA and has to be reconstituted onsite, there are numerous opportunities to spike the punch.

Who the hell wants their government injecting anything in them, our government are basically 100% filthy degenerates.

This to me is the one area where people have some control over their lives, you don't have to be livestock, you can protest in mass. Boston tea party that shit and destroy the vaccines, let nature take its course.
 
Yeah, the system is flawed but you can’t hate the ones that get lucky. There’s a saying that you have to fuck people over to get rich and that does point one to believe the system is fucked but just because someone has their mind set on money so they play the system in their favor or get lucky isn’t really a reason to hate them in my opinion. I take pride in working hard to provide. I don’t expect to ever be rich and I don’t care but some people are brainwashed by money. They want cool cars and lake side condos and all the dumb slutty girls that come out of the wood work when you attain money. If you take the cards you were delt and make what you want out of them, I respect that. Everyone should be able to create the life they want to live. I personally don’t see a reason to hate someone because they’re creating what they want out of what’s around them.

the whole covid scam I agree with you on though. This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous and is beginning to look more and more like an attempt to destroy the general population.
The main problem is the rich preach rugged individualism, but when the shit hits the fan they get a massive government bailout.

The rich have a pay to play program, they buy politicians and the politicians return the favor by taking your hard working ass and giving them your money.

It's the same crap the comedian George Carlin was talking about for 35 years.

To me it's commonsense. If someone is rich and they fall on their ass, that's there problem. I've worked for a facility that tanked in the past and watched our CEO that did a really shitty job, walk off with almost $2 million. He had to have armed security protecting him from all the death threats he received.

There's a protected class in this country and that needs to stop.
 
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