Hormone Powders

[J DUB]

I have asked this question before, but I will address this one to BigKarch to get an opinion.

Let's say someone is caught importing 100 grams of "dianabol" powder. This, of course, is 100,000mg, or 20,000 5mg tabs. However, while 5mg is the most common dosage size for dianabol, there are also 10mg, 25mg, and 50mg varieties in production. According to the federal steroid discount, 1 dosage unit equals 50 tabs. Well, how is this defined if there are 5,10, 25, and 50mg tabs in existance? Obviously, there would be a HUGE difference betweeen getting caught with 20,000 5mg tabs and 2,000 50mg tabs.

I would guess that they would say that 5mg is the "standard" and thus the person would be charged with possession of 20,000 tabs, along with charges for intent to manufacture and distribute, or even worse conspiracy. As far as I know, such a case is unprecedented so what is your opinion on how this would be handled?

 

[J DUB]

I am fully aware of the risks of purchasing steroids in bulk quantities, but how do you believe the federal steroid discount would apply to hormone powders specifically?

I am unaware of any precedent of any case involving such a matter, so this will likely end up as an educated guess. I do not know anything about other drugs besides steroids, but is there for instance such a thing as MDMA (ecstacy) powder or any other drug which comes in raw powder form with the purpose of it being converted for consumption? If so, these cases may provide a good place to look.

 

[novicebb]

Well I know there are always that you can reduce your risks with anything-including purchasing powdered hormonal products. Before purchasing ask supplier how is going to be shipped. That is a good way to know if your chances of being caught are high or low.

Establish software to remove any harmful files on your computer way inadvance(before ordering anything).

Establish highspeed internet account using a pre-paid credit card that you can have put under any name and don't have to submit SSN or any other identifiable information.

If you live in a Large metropolitan area, then try to conduct ordering from the public libary using someone else's libary card to access the internet.

I have other ideas but then again you probably be my new competitor and I can't give away all my secrets.

 

[J DUB]

This is very true, and is why I do not understand why people are still ordering from sources on boards. There are a few big name sources that I am aware of on other boards who post openly all the time, and I would bet a buck that they are being watched, and if you send funds to them it is likely you will be watched as well. From there, if they want to get you they certainly will I don't care what you do to avoid it.

The feds don't just intercept one package and make a bust usually...they have usually been watching you for a while to build evidence, and then bust you when they feel the time is right, i.e. when they know you have a boatload of stuff in your possession. People often do not think of things like this when they place orders, but this is how it works in the real world and people need to think about this stuff more before ordering.

 

[novicebb]

dont ever forget, we will never know when LE starts to investigate us.....they will have more info on us/our contacts/suppliers and all our emails even with other computers, libraries.....etc...,more than we then we realize.. I take it you have never been a party or subpeoned for that type of info....The feds dont play by our rules....they dont have to.................they have the uppper hand..bro.trust me on this.....

I don't doubt you what so ever. But the feds tracing me via a library portal, I truly doubt it unless you make terrible mistakes. I don't about where you are from but in my city's library you log onto the the internet by inputting a library card number. If you do not do something stupid like check your regular email(yahoo, gmail, hotmail), IM your friends on your buddy list and then go and order some powder from an overseas source, then I am pretty sure it is difficult for the feds to track you.

In any given day that same library number that you logged under may have been used 12 or 13 times before you even use it. Think about all the actitivites that those before were involved in.

All I am saying that there is always a way. I don't care what anyone says, there is always a way.

 

[CyniQ]

This thread scares the shit outta me...

 

[J DUB]

It honestly should...while we can justify the use of steroids all we want in cyberspace, in the real world they are highly illegal and buying or selling them can absolutely ruin your life.

Hewey Grant, who I remember as a source on here a while back, posted recently about his experience with the law and although he got off fairly easily, it was only because of his age and college enrollment...a grown man with a wife and kids would have been toast. Buyers are in just as much danger these days, as the more sources that get busted, the more buyers will as well. One definitely needs to think long and hard before ordering, as they are not playing these days.

 

[CyniQ]

Buyers are in just as much danger these days, as the more sources that get busted, the more buyers will as well. One definitely needs to think long and hard before ordering, as they are not playing these days.

"These Days" That's really the point. I got 3 words for you...

Media Fucking Frenzy.

In "These Days" of 24hr news and activist politicians, the little blood suckers all feed off of each other. Media picks up a story about aas in baseball and makes it as SCANDALOUS as possible. Cause they don't have anything better to do... and how else are they going to fill 24hrs with "Breaking News"?? Politicians pick it up because they have nothing better to do... and it must be important to the constituency, because it all over the NEWS. Politicians put pressure on LE to make arrests so that the people know that something is being done. The arrests generate more bogus news. And thus... the Vicious Circle.

I wish the average person knew what their lives would be like if their heroes weren't using aas. If Joe Beerguzzler knew how many of his sports heroes used aas to become heroes.

 

[novicebb]

This is very true, and is why I do not understand why people are still ordering from sources on boards. There are a few big name sources that I am aware of on other boards who post openly all the time, and I would bet a buck that they are being watched, and if you send funds to them it is likely you will be watched as well. From there, if they want to get you they certainly will I don't care what you do to avoid it.

The feds don't just intercept one package and make a bust usually...they have usually been watching you for a while to build evidence, and then bust you when they feel the time is right, i.e. when they know you have a boatload of stuff in your possession. People often do not think of things like this when they place orders, but this is how it works in the real world and people need to think about this stuff more before ordering.

I still think that it is safer for an individual to order from online source then at your local gym.

 

[CyniQ]

Are you just saying that to increase your business???