Homebrew specialists

[Stretch]

Guys I am about to begin to homebrew some gear and the formula I was going to use contained...2%BA 18%BB and the rest will be raw powder and oil...

I am interested in possiby using Ethyl Oleate in the mix....

Do I still need BA to maintain sterility??

What is a good break down for percentages if I desire a smooth as silk compound??

Is EO really that far superior to other solvents???

I am not trying to make a super high concentration....

 

[newbie23]

well what are you making?

EO is fucking awesome and i would not brew without it-not only does it help to solve-but it makes the gear thin as water. and it will also be much easier to filter.

it is a lil more $ but half EO - half grapeseed is what ive found to be the best mix


i usually use 3% BA and 15% BB-if its higher concentrated you can bump the BB up to 20

although i have yet to try almond oil-but have heard good things

 

[newbie23]

if you tell me what your making-and ask mod if im allowed to post recipe-i will give you good one-my friend gives me all mine-and he is a wizard

 

[Stretch]

if you tell me what your making-and ask mod if im allowed to post recipe-i will give you good one-my friend gives me all mine-and he is a wizard

Fina and syno conversions without a kit

Are you saying you use 3% BA and 15%BB....then the rest is a 50/50 split between oil and EO??.....

 

[newbie23]

yes-you got it

when the numbers are not even i round down the grapeseed-and fill in the blanc with EO

tren is about the only thing i have not made-but its all the same

remember higher concentrations-20% BB will make it dissolve easily

 

[Stretch]

you're my new best friend NEWB...lol

 

[newbie23]

hahahaha-im not smart-but as you can see you dont have to be to make your own gear

 

[BBC3]

You dont short yourself on the BB or the powder will not deliver effectively..... UpJohn is not putting it in there because its free. And its not quite healthy either. So theres a reason. Consider cyp has a melting point of almost 200 F. So, whats the melting point of your particular gear.. consider these factors Higher melting point will require higher BB, more than likely... The BA is only a parial solvent and light antibacterial.. It does not sterilize by any means at that level, but it will discourage contaminants that may arrive...

 

[newbie23]

so what do you think BBC-for test e 250 15% is good?

what would 15% not be good for?

 

[BBC3]

My guess would be that if Big Pharma is using 20%, then 15%is enough. But keep the BA at 5% as well. BA pain is complete bullshit. In fact it works as an anesthetic to some degree. The only thing anyone ever felt from BA was a slight stinging in the muscle that lastes no more than a couple of mins...and thats if its up around 7-10%.. The rest is Idiot Banther..........

Remember the BB delivers the test, and is also designed in this action to create the "depot" that holds in the muscle to slow the release over 2 days. While enanthate is a borderline solid at room temp, this does not absolve it from the necessity of BB. To deliver a fine dispersement throughout the muscle tissue, enough BB will be required to hold it truely diluted enough to flow...

so what do you think BBC-for test e 250 15% is good?

what would 15% not be good for?

 

[newbie23]

sounds to me that your saying 20% is better and 15% is good-so maybe if one were to make their own gear 20% would be a wise choice

 

[Stretch]

I absolutely love this fuckin board!!...so much knowledge!!

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[LostTime]

It seems there is ALOT of discrepency regarding proper amounts of BA and BB. I've been doing alot of reading about homebrewing lately, and there really isn't any consensus. Some say 2%/7%, some are 5%/0% and some are 2%/20% BA/BB. Everyone seem to have their own "best" recipe.

Hell, I can't even seem to determine if heating it after it's been mixed does, or doesn't help to sterilize it. Some say yes, some say no. Some say the .22 filter is enough to catch everything, some say .45 is enough. It's frustratting finding so much conflicting information.

Nevermind trying to source the damn powder!!

 

[Stretch]

It seems there is ALOT of discrepency regarding proper amounts of BA and BB. I've been doing alot of reading about homebrewing lately, and there really isn't any consensus. Some say 2%/7%, some are 5%/0% and some are 2%/20% BA/BB. Everyone seem to have their own "best" recipe.

Hell, I can't even seem to determine if heating it after it's been mixed does, or doesn't help to sterilize it. Some say yes, some say no. Some say the .22 filter is enough to catch everything, some say .45 is enough. It's frustratting finding so much conflicting information.

Nevermind trying to source the damn powder!!

ya...opinions are like assholes

Heating will without a doubt sterilize the gear...

If you want to stop reading peoples opinions and start reading some facts go to google scholar and try to find a scholarly article or medical study regarding sterilization. Much of the information you will find in medical journals is tough reading. But at least you know that what you're reading is based in the realm of repeatable science, not some old-salty-'roid vet's personal opinion.

 

[newbie23]

use a .22um the holes are smaller-so why wouldnt you?

 

[LostTime]

use a .22um the holes are smaller-so why wouldnt you?

I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong. I'm just pointing out how there is so much differing opinion on how to "correctly" do it. But I guess that's the kind of (mis)information that discussion forums tend to breed. Like Stretch said, you have to dig thru the b.s. and find some reputable scientific information. Don't just take some bro's word for it. After all, it's YOUR body you'll be injecting this stuff into.

 

[newbie23]

i agree lost time-but it isnt as big of a deal as some make it out to be-i know idiots that dont even filter and dont have problem-although i would never inject unfiltered gear.


once you use the true defintion of sterile-you will relise that the chances of you keeping sterile while making it in your kitchen are slim to none-but that doesnt mean you have an issue. the process i have listed has been used by many without an issue-could we make it better? sure we could.

there is a a lot of misconceptions about how easy it is to get an infection with gear-its NOT easy

no matter what i alwasy have some cephlex on hand-you can buy the fish antiobiotics off the net legally-and its the same shit the doctor would give you

 

[Stretch]

there is a a lot of misconceptions about how easy it is to get an infection with gear-its NOT easy

I've was in jail a couple times when I was younger and I got to know a couple heroin addicts in there who would tell me stories about living on the street and using puddle water to inject their dope...and they inject I.V.!!

and here we are all paranoid about an IM injection[)]