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Please send me all your money, no friend trust me im a good business parter only sell quality goods to those that want them, will reship anytime.

Yes the spelling was left as is, I could of wrote this, please lol.

How about this you send quality goods and when proved we pay.
 
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Goodness dude where have you been when all the other unscrupulous generic GH producers were scamming Meso members?

Look I've only one simple request to prove you and the company you represent are GTG!!!
Yep I only ask that you post a Mass Spec AND HPLC of the GH your selling, that's it mate!

Incidentally ANY legit manufacturer of rHGH will perform a MS and HPLC to ensure the reproducibility and purity of their GH is GTG, and there are NO EXCEPTIONS to this practice.

Ergo If you don't have at least ONE MS/HPLC on hand at present, such that it's reproducible within 48 hours your SELLING JUNK, period.


Thanks
JIM
 
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Mass specs will tell you purity, but not potency. Blood serum will tell you a bit about purity, but is subject to variation. If you are buying 100 kits then b serum is the only way to get quick information. However, IGF-1 tests are far and away the best measure, as many variables cloud b serum scores.

There is another fact people always forget: If you ship in this summer heat, the GH will be damaged. Using dry ice for generic/illegal GH is a good way to get popped.

I have personally seen legit GH from China test higher on the East Coast, then less and less as it moves across the states. And that was in the late spring. I would not buy or ship anything now.
 
Without a previous HPLC to remove all the junk in "generic GH" MS is relatively WORTHLESS for GH purity analysis.

Because unlike AAS which have a very stable polycyclic skeleton GH "fractures into multiple little peptides under MS.

The best test is trypsin enzymatic cleavage with the resulting peptides separated using HPLC, which is then follow by MS to identify each peptide
 
I have personally seen legit GH from China test higher on the East Coast, then less and less as it moves across the states.


I've seen GH test legit in China, then be complete bunk when the consumer gets it. How does that happen? :rolleyes:

Where have you been, PC? Meso just isn't the same without you!
 
I've seen GH test legit in China, then be complete bunk when the consumer gets it. How does that happen? :rolleyes:

Where have you been, PC? Meso just isn't the same without you!

I miss you too, CBS. I am teaching online, so the last thing I want to do is type on the internet in my free time. Also, I like to stay out of jail, and the online world is not very conducive to that. I just made a shitload of money selling a rental property, so really no need for unnecessary risk.

There is tons of bunk GH from China, as everyone knows. The Chinese GH I am refering to tested 21 ng on the East Coast, and then 17 in the mid west.It tested 90% pure via Mass spec. That was from some guy who had some, was worried about it, then sent it to Angus. It certainly was not a ringer.

And that was before the heat wave. That is why I recommend against buying GH at this time of the year. To hot and damage is assured. I went to the trouble of posting this fact because I don't want anyone to loose a large chunk of money, which will most assuredly happen if they get shipped at the time of year.

FWIW, I just had labs, and my IGF-1 went from 70 (range is 60-191 for my age group) to 180. This was from a 3 times a week 3iu program. I am now high normal. I plan to stay that way for life.
 
Without a previous HPLC to remove all the junk in "generic GH" MS is relatively WORTHLESS for GH purity analysis.

Because unlike AAS which have a very stable polycyclic skeleton GH "fractures into multiple little peptides under MS.

The best test is trypsin enzymatic cleavage with the resulting peptides separated using HPLC, which is then follow by MS to identify each peptide

Can you please link me to an article. I would very much like to read it. You were one of the people to get me interested in IGF-1 testing, so I do pay attention to what you say.
 
I miss you too, CBS. I am teaching online, so the last thing I want to do is type on the internet in my free time. Also, I like to stay out of jail, and the online world is not very conducive to that. I just made a shitload of money selling a rental property, so really no need for unnecessary risk.

There is tons of bunk GH from China, as everyone knows. The Chinese GH I am refering to tested 21 ng on the East Coast, and then 17 in the mid west.It tested 90% pure via Mass spec. That was from some guy who had some, was worried about it, then sent it to Angus. It certainly was not a ringer.

And that was before the heat wave. That is why I recommend against buying GH at this time of the year. To hot and damage is assured. I went to the trouble of posting this fact because I don't want anyone to loose a large chunk of money, which will most assuredly happen if they get shipped at the time of year.

FWIW, I just had labs, and my IGF-1 went from 70 (range is 60-191 for my age group) to 180. This was from a 3 times a week 3iu program. I am now high normal. I plan to stay that way for life.

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Actually no I've NEVER tested generic GH from China that was worth what BB paid for it, and that's being kind.

Moreover PC when will you and all the other generic resalers understand most people aren't buying serum testing which are easily fabricated.

Such as obtaining an "IFF or HG analysis" from Quest labs and replace the existing values which those that meet your sales quota.

There is only ONE reliable means of testing GH and that is analyzing the vial contents with HPLC and MS.

Anything else is salesman hype, IMO

Hey can you post this 90% pure MS GH
product your referring to, I'd love to review the chromatograph if possible.
REGS
JIM
 
Oh and PC you know "a purity of 90%" is relatively worthless, if further analysis reveals each "kit vial" contains only ONE IU, rather than TEN IU as advertised, right?

Did you also know trypsin enzymatic cleavage of GH into specific polypeptides may also be responsible for the rise of IGF-1 and/or GH observed in some "generic GH" products, even though NO GH is detected during their analysis!!
Jim
 
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Jim,

I am very interested in learning about this test. Post a link where I can read up. I test everything nowadays.

And yes, blood serum is far from the best test. As I said, it is influenced by many things.

It is not for end consumers, it is for people who buy 100 kits, and need info asap. Now when I get a mass spec back on test prop, and it comes in at 56% purity (and this is your average ugl score) you and CBS like Mass specs. What about when tren comes back at 73%?

It is not a perfect world, but I go by what info a have. When something comes in at 56% I damn well am going to look at everything starting from powder, to glass wear to hoods etc.

If GH has some pip then mass specs come in very handy. A 90% score is not the be all and end all. However, it caused (hypothetically) to look at PH, and lo and behold, the ph was high.

People are free to do what they want. If they want to buy GH with no labs, they are free to do so. For most of us, Pharm obviously is the best choice, but it is too expensive. When I see blood serum, IGF-1, and mass specs, that is good enough for me. Perfect, no.

I run 3 iu's e2d. Coming up on a year now. My rosacia cleared up. My hair is less grey and thicker. I eat shitloads of food and train like an animal (all supersets and MA). I look completely different than before. In year I put on 8-10 lbs of muscle. I run 350 mgs of test a week, that is it. My latest labs came in and I am ridiculously healthy. There was one odd spike in my cholesterol last test, but I am back down to 125.

Here is the really strange thing: My best improvements have been in my weakest bodyparts, chest and bi's. Regular gear makes my legs, back, and tris bigger, more so than chest and bi's.

I am not going to get drawn into another 30 page Meso pissing match. What I hope, is that you will be kind enough to link me to some info regarding the HPLC testing process.

I wish you and CBS all the best.
 
That's analytical chemistry textbook, rather than research, material PC.
Jim,

What I hope, is that you will be kind enough to link me to some info regarding the HPLC testing process.

What your asking for, I think, has become so standardized it's now a part of essentially all analytical chemistry textbooks.

Try Googling or be MUCH more specific about your HPLC question.
Thx
 
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