Help with explaining why this shit doesn't work!!

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Sorry this is so long. My wife bought this stuff to lose weight. All I cana tell her is it doesn't work. She keeps asking why not. Anyone ever seen it or have the real reasons why it doesn't work?




What Is a Starch Blocker / Carb Blocker?
Supplements sold as "starch blockers" or "carb blockers" are really starch-enzyme blockers; they inhibit the body's production of the starch-digesting enzyme, alpha-amylase. With lessened amounts of alpha-amylase, the body is less able to break down starches (carbohydrates) into sugar (glucose) for further digestion. That's how starch blockers work - at least on a theoretical level. Phaseolamin Phase 2 (Phaseolus vulgaris extract) starch blocker is an alpha-amylase inhibitor.
Do Starch Blockers / Carb Blockers Work?
Scientists have been aware of various alpha-amylase inhibitors for decades, but up until recent studies of Phase 2 starch blocker, these products have not been shown to work all that well. A number of factors may have explained why: there was not enough alpha-amylase-blocking activity from these products, they did not work well in the body, they contained endogenous alpha-amylase in sufficient quantity to overcome their alpha-amylase-inhibiting effects, or another enzyme, glucoamylase, was able to take over when alpha-amylase is inhibited. Whatever the problem, fecal-calorie tests demonstrated that they did not work very well at blocking the digestion of starch (an increase in fecal starch content, and therefore, caloric value would be apparent since the starch should pass through undigested1) in vivo (in the body). Nevertheless, most of these alpha-amylase inhibitors have been shown to work in vitro (in a test tube), which left scientists frustratingly just out of reach of the "holy grail" of diet products.
Good News: More Potent Starch Blocker, Phaseolamin Phase 2 Starch Blocker
As it turns out, according to subsequent research,2 the reason why alpha-amylase inhibitors work in vitro but not very well in vivo is that they have only weak inhibiting ability. However, partially purified extracts (around 30-40 times the concentration of previously available commercial preparations) of Phaseolus vulgaris (white kidney beans) are stable in the stomach and do, in fact, work as advertised. One such product is Phaseolamin Phase 2.
Phaseolamin Phase 2 Starch Blocker Compared to Placebo - It Works!
An alpha-amylase inhibitor present in Phaseolus vulgaris (white kidney beans), is the best alpha-amylase inhibitor currently available. Phase 2 Phaseolamin brand Phaseolus vulgaris extract has been demonstrated effective against a placebo through randomized clinical tests conducted at the University of Scranton, PA.3,4,5,6 Phase 2 Phaseolamin brand Phaseolus vulgaris extract is the finest Phaseolus vulgaris extract we know of and the only Starch / Carb Blocker we sell.
What Results Can Be Expected with Phaseolamin Phase 2 Carb Blocker?
How much weight can you expect to lose? Individual results vary. Test subjects in a controlled clinical setting using this product (Phaseolamin Phase 2 Starch / Carb Blocker) lost 3.9% of their total body weight and 10.45% of body fat mass, in 30 days, without reducing lean tissue mass, as compared to a placebo group.4 This translates to a 7.8 pound reduction for someone starting at 200 pounds of body weight, in 30 days! This is not only a good result, it is a healthy pace at which to lose weight. That said, you may have seen ads for starch blockers that tell you it is OK to go ahead and eat all the bread, potatoes, rice and pasta you want. Don't be foolish - if you are already having trouble managing your weight because of starch why would you INCREASE your consumption of starches? Continue as you are, trying to control your diet in a healthy manner and ADD Phase 2 Carb / Starch Blocker to give your self an edge on improving your physique rather than satisfying an unhealthy craving!

According to the manufacturer, two 600mg capsules (the size we sell) of Phaseolamin Phase 2 will neutralize up to 2700 starch calories using a modified USP test method.
Phaseolamin Phase 2 Starch Blocker and Blood Sugar Levels
Maybe even more interesting than Phaseolus's starch-blocking ability is that, since starches are quickly converted to sugar, those subjects taking Phase 2 Phaseolamin did not experience as dramatic a "spike" in blood glucose levels after consuming a starchy food.3,5 (A starchy foods' readiness to convert to sugar can be rated relative to other foods - this places the food on the "glycemic index", the more readily converted starches scoring higher than the more slowly converted starches.) This is no mere detail as many Hypoglycemic and Type II Diabetes sufferers are acutely aware - preventing blood sugar spikes can be very valuable! The patients who took the Phaseolus extract experienced a return to normal blood glucose levels 20 minutes earlier than the placebo group, and their maximum blood glucose levels after eating a starch were measured at one-half to two-thirds the levels of those subjects receiving placebo.3,5 Pretty impressive.
Recommended Phase 2 Starch Blocker Usage
Since the objective is to block the amylase enzyme, at least two capsules must be taken at once. If you take only one, you will not recieve half the benefit, but none at all. Think of this as you would think of turning off a gas grill: if its valve is not entirely closed, gas can still be ignited. Here the amylase enzyme is the "gas" - you must turn it off (block it) completely. Two capsules will be enough Phase 2 to achieve this goal. At least 15 minutes prior to your first meal will ensure that the Phase 2 inhibitor has had time to work.

The studies performed in Scranton were done on subjects taking 2 pills in the morning and that's all. It may be that you can take more throughout the day, after all it is a bean extract and very safe.
 
i have worked with alpha-amylase in a lab, that inhibitor shit is worthless.

if you really want to inhibit amylase well, down a few ml's of iodine.*

*note: don't drink iodine.
 
ratmonkey said:
i have worked with alpha-amylase in a lab, that inhibitor shit is worthless.

if you really want to inhibit amylase well, down a few ml's of iodine.*

*note: don't drink iodine.


it seems obvious to me too. i was wondering if anyone knew of any article or something documented that i could show to her to prove my point
 
My mom pops those fat/carb blocker pills and thinks they're gonna save her from a cheese enchilada. I think they're nothing more than another gimmick for lazy people to spend money on hoping it will be the cure pill to replace bad eating habits. A lot of people don't like to hear the same ol' "exercise 3-5 days a week and eat healthy" routine...they want something new and cutting edge that will deliver the results without any effort.
I'd tell her to ditch the pills, put on her running shoes and go for a run or fast walk 3-4 days a week. She'll get better results in her figure and will actually be doing something good for her body.

my 2 cents.
 
other than DNP, there's only one magic pill that works to lose fat, and it even works faster than DNP.

here's how it works, you take this magical pill, it goes down into your stomach, and through the process of digestion, its special ingredients are absorbed into your bloodstream. once you reach acceptable blood levels through frequent dosing, kill yourself with a spatula. (it doesn't matter how, just figure it out for yourself.) once dead, your body will begin to decompose, and you will start shedding pounds like crazy. without any effort, you'll have that skeleton look everybody is going for sooner than you can say "I'm dead!"**

**side effects may include high blood pressure, headaches, nausea, bad sweating, rectal bleeding, hives, and cramps. not for sale to individuals under 18.

spatula not included.

RESULTS ARE GUARANTEED, unless you used the wrong kind of kitchen utensil. you dumb shit.
 
Women are so gullable, it took me 4 weeks to convince my old lady that the $700 (that's right $700) she spent on boob n-larging pills don't work, lucky for her she got her money back.
 
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