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Pericles
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Since you refuse to see a health care professional, run a pct.
Get on some Nolvadex or an AI like Arimidex or Letro. A blood test would meaure your estro, but you can tell yourself if your estro is too high or not.
Wait for 6 days or so after your last shot of test, then run HCG 1500 or so IU's eod. You will definately want to increase your AI's. Nolva should be at 20 mg. and held steady at this amount for at least 3 more weeks. One day before last shot of HCG, start on 100 mg of Clomid a day, run for 10 days. Then drop down to 50 mg a day for 7 days. You may want to keep taking Nolva at 10 mg a day for one week after finishing Clomid.
I am not a medical professional, and everything I just wrote is for informaational purposes only.
Get on some Nolvadex or an AI like Arimidex or Letro. A blood test would meaure your estro, but you can tell yourself if your estro is too high or not.
Wait for 6 days or so after your last shot of test, then run HCG 1500 or so IU's eod. You will definately want to increase your AI's. Nolva should be at 20 mg. and held steady at this amount for at least 3 more weeks. One day before last shot of HCG, start on 100 mg of Clomid a day, run for 10 days. Then drop down to 50 mg a day for 7 days. You may want to keep taking Nolva at 10 mg a day for one week after finishing Clomid.
I am not a medical professional, and everything I just wrote is for informaational purposes only.
Pericles
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Also, taper down test for a week or two. Start Nolva as well.
While I'm certainly not discounting PC's suggestions, mate, you are simply not providing the requisite data to formulate an informed opinion, from a medical perspective. I mean please, how many hormonal / non-hormonal metabolic alterations do you believe are plausible explanations for your signs or symptoms when applied to your history.... more than I can count. If you really want to KNOW what is errant in your particular situation, rather than conjecture, lab tests are mandatory!
Pericles
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While I'm certainly not discounting PC's suggestions, mate, you are simply not providing the requisite data to formulate an informed opinion, from a medical perspective. I mean please, how many hormonal / non-hormonal metabolic alterations do you believe are plausible explanations for your signs or symptoms when applied to your history.... more than I can count. If you really want to KNOW what is errant in your particular situation, rather than conjecture, lab tests are mandatory!
Jim, my main concern is that he has been on continuously for more than a year. I agree about the need for tests, he should immediately try and find a way of getting them done.
However, even if he does get blood work/medical attention, he still needs a pct.
Oh no I'm with you mate! In fact, should the OP chose the no lab test route, your plan most certainly seems on spot, IMO!
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thanks for the information doc but should i keep up with the treatment all the life or just when i finish the things you're talking about?
Pericles
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If you are young and healthy, the PCT^ should restore you to normalcy
However you have tasted the sweet nectar of performance enhancement and most likely will want to drink the nectar again.
However you have tasted the sweet nectar of performance enhancement and most likely will want to drink the nectar again.
i see that you got alot of infos about these things and iam 20 years old yet , i would like to know few things that can help me to get high lvls of testosterone without taking injections after the treatment if you dont mind and i did some researches about the things you told me about and it seems the best thing to do and i would like to thank you for ur useful infos
Outstanding plan and I definitely agree there's plenty of time to start using AAS (especially absent baseline lab studies) since at your age a testosterone level less than 250 ng/dl really should be investigated before treatment is begun. But should any questions arise about the varied anabolics and their different benefits in training, these guys on Meso like Perciles, Sworder and Kamala, to mention a few mates (whom have MUCH more experience than myself) are excellent resources, IMO
Apologies MK, since I didn't refamiliarize myself with your OP (opening post) I confused your unknown testosterone level with another thread whose testosterone level was low for their age (250ng/dl) Nonetheless in both instances lab studies are needed to formulate an informed therapeutic plan.
i had to use it doc coz i was such a weak guy in the school that many people were bullying at me and i wanted to be strong , started to take steroids .. and started to be such an aggresive beast and mostly lost 50% of my friends, after the anavar that i took for mostly 1 year and proteins and shakes i could gain 60 lb of lean muscles that year but the problem that i wanted more and more ,, thats the human brain .. couldnt refuse taking more .. even while iam writing this re i want to take it badly , but iam gonna try to stay away from it for a while or till i get better , and iam able to take .. anywayz i wanna buy pct atm .. and hope every thing gets better .. and thanks alot for the infos
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Pericles
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Danny,
I don't mean to scare you, but you illustrate why we are opposed to steroid use in anyone under 25 (and actually starting in 30's is best). Your mind and endocrine system are still developing.
You need to get yourself to and endocrinologist, and or a urologist.
Tell him/her what you have told us and that you wan't to get off steroids.
Make sure the doc has experience, as many are still clueless as to how to restore the HPTA.
I don't mean to scare you, but you illustrate why we are opposed to steroid use in anyone under 25 (and actually starting in 30's is best). Your mind and endocrine system are still developing.
You need to get yourself to and endocrinologist, and or a urologist.
Tell him/her what you have told us and that you wan't to get off steroids.
Make sure the doc has experience, as many are still clueless as to how to restore the HPTA.
have not read thru the other post's but i am sure by now u were told 2 run Dex or Nolva.
Dex is a little pricey but the safest product out there,
Nolva is more than likely more than ok 4u but if u r Running lots of test u should chk ur E2. Nolva really does not have much of a effect on that,.
The Letro is fire. it can bring ur over all Estrogen so low it can not be detected. However we do need sum Estrogen in our bodies which is were the Dex is safe because it will get it low but u will maintain sum. Hope that helps.
Also Clomid - HCG mid cycle as well as PCT. this will help ur Libido but crank the E2 - etc so get the Dex at the same time. Provirion will make u so Ready 4 love that if u were to tell a female what u were thinking she may run , LOL, but no Provirion = Libido
DONZI
DEX = adex = ArimiDEX = Anastrozole
or is DEX = NovlaDEX = Tamoxifen
Damn acronyms, lol!
I suspect your referring to the former?
Sorry for not including your name as one of "the guys on Meso",
DEX = adex = ArimiDEX = Anastrozole
or is DEX = NovlaDEX = Tamoxifen
Damn acronyms, lol!
I suspect your referring to the former?
Sorry for not including your name as one of "the guys on Meso",
DONZI
DEX = adex = ArimiDEX = Anastrozole
or is DEX = NovlaDEX = Tamoxifen
Damn acronyms, lol!
I suspect your referring to the former?
Sorry for not including your name as one of "the guys on Meso",
lol
the A-dex. I go Nolva 4 short on the (Tamoxifen)
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