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[pipo]

Who are ppl guys??

Purple panda labs

 

[TinyLittleMan]

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Thanks for posting brother.

So PPL is g2g. Interesting. Their thread is very long.... Lol

The best back in the day

 

[justtrtbro]

The TC and TNE raw powders are not that yellow but the NPP is really yellow.



PPL has no raws. They brewed it and are now selling oils.

Thanks for the heads up Photon.

 

[justtrtbro]

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The best back in the day

Lol hopefully they'll be back!

 

[justtrtbro]

Ive sent all the janoshik reports from npp to my aasraws vendor and he told me that he sent the reports to their manager and will get back to me when they get back to work on 9th

Good man. I think they'll make it right

 

[MrTexas2]

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The best back in the day

I had problems w/ them back in the day....it was so long ago can't remember specifics but it was enough for me to switch sources.

 

[canIgetsomeHgG]

I read about cleaning up poor quality raws with ethanol / filtering / re crystalizing. Is that something that will help in this situation? Mine will be here Wed. I'm only using them for myself . Will you guys just adjust dosing accordingly or clean or ....?

It depends on the impurity. In general recrystallization does work exceptionally well for steroidal molecules, but even it has its limits. For very similar molecules like testosterone (∆4) and the TNE impurity (∆4,6), the difference in solubility is likely negligible. On the other hand, there is a rather large difference between the nandrolone molecule and the androstenone, so recrystallization likely would work. Granted, methanol, sometimes acetone, is more commonly used, and the ester will likely hinder this.

This specifically is an estered version of androstenedione, a kind of prohormone of testosterone (information on extent of conversion is limited).

Correction: it is not a diketone but singular ketone instead. I misread as the dione is a very common starting material.

In general, the main way you seperate really similar molecules is by using a column. You do a quick tlc, find the best mobile phase, and flash from there. For more stubborn cases you'd either have to gradient or, might be a bit biased here because of ochem, attach some functional group to either your molecule or the impurity, seperate, then remove.

Also if you do want really pure raws, you generally get no estered raws, flash them untill pure enough, and add the ester with an acid. Silver ions in the silica also tend to help if the difference is in saturation.

 

[Sammy_Jenkis]

Thanks for posting brother.

So PPL is g2g. Interesting. Their thread is very long.... Lol

I wouldn’t deal will PPL at this point. You don’t have to look back very far in their thread to see recent issues.

 

[justtrtbro]

I wouldn’t deal will PPL at this point. You don’t have to look back very far in their thread to see recent issues.

Yes just seen that. Shame. The market is tumultuous lately!

 

[B Ware]

Definitely not a happy customer. The NPP brew is very cloudy. I had this happen with a similar low purity mast e. I had to let it sit for a day or two to let all the sediment crap/sludge fall to the bottom of the beaker and then filter the oil. I went through quite a few filters for the finished product. This brew looks like it will be the same.

Oh, and it looks like tren. I’m sure it will clean up some once filtered and separated from all the sediment but it will still resemble tren.

 

[justtrtbro]

Definitely not a happy customer. The NPP brew is very cloudy. I had this happen with a similar low purity mast e. I had to let it sit for a day or two to let all the sediment crap/sludge fall to the bottom of the beaker and then filter the oil. I went through quite a few filters for the finished product. This brew looks like it will be the same.

Very sorry to read this.

 

[Luka.Halotestin]

Definitely not a happy customer. The NPP brew is very cloudy. I had this happen with a similar low purity mast e. I had to let it sit for a day or two to let all the sediment crap/sludge fall to the bottom of the beaker and then filter the oil. I went through quite a few filters for the finished product. This brew looks like it will be the same.

I had the same problem with one of my Tren A batches that was tested at 87%.

 

[murna]

Definitely not a happy customer. The NPP brew is very cloudy. I had this happen with a similar low purity mast e. I had to let it sit for a day or two to let all the sediment crap/sludge fall to the bottom of the beaker and then filter the oil. I went through quite a few filters for the finished product. This brew looks like it will be the same.

Oh, and it looks like tren. I’m sure it will clean up some once filtered and separated from all the sediment but it will still resemble tren.

Be safe man. Only God knows what's really in there

 

[Photon]

Definitely not a happy customer. The NPP brew is very cloudy. I had this happen with a similar low purity mast e. I had to let it sit for a day or two to let all the sediment crap/sludge fall to the bottom of the beaker and then filter the oil. I went through quite a few filters for the finished product. This brew looks like it will be the same.

Oh, and it looks like tren. I’m sure it will clean up some once filtered and separated from all the sediment but it will still resemble tren.

Any reply from your rep?

 

[B Ware]

Any reply from your rep?

Yes, I was told she will keep me posted after discussing it with her team and she has more information and not to worry.

Will be interesting to see how it’s handled. I definitely am not expecting full refunds to be handed out but do hope there is a solution that works for everyone.

 

[Photon]

Yes, I was told she will keep me posted after discussing it with her team and she has more information and not to worry.

Will be interesting to see how it’s handled. I definitely am not expecting full refunds to be handed out but do hope there is a solution that works for everyone.

Refunding for one opens the floodgates for a refund for all..which means they make a loss..lol

 

[B Ware]

Refunding for one opens the floodgates for a refund for all..which means they make a loss..lol

Agreed. I’m pretty easy nowadays to please. It tested around 10% low so honestly if they approached me with credit or a discount for a future order I would accept it, and I have never accepted store credit from any of the testing I’ve ever done.

This is the one time I contributed to harm reduction and had the thought, shit I should have kept this under my hat until I was made whole lol. Bit harder for them to come up with a solution for everyone.

 

[murna]

Agreed. I’m pretty easy nowadays to please. It tested around 10% low so honestly if they approached me with credit or a discount for a future order I would accept it, and I have never accepted store credit from any of the testing I’ve ever done.

This is the one time I contributed to harm reduction and had the thought, shit I should have kept this under my hat until I was made whole lol. Bit harder for them to come up with a solution for everyone.

The easiest solution for them would be to make decent raws haha. It's not that difficult to recrystallize in production and would keep everyone happy and avoid these situations.

 

[Joker21]

This is Testosterone Cypionate. Also yellow. Carrier oil is MCT.

 

[B Ware]

I decided instead of allowing it sit for a day or two to allow it to drop the sediments out that it might actually be better to filter it while the oil was warm. Glad I did as it filtered fine until the last bit and then the filter started to clog.

Filtering it toned it down A LOT. Brewed with very little heat and this is mct. Definitely not the desired color I was after but I have a plan to dilute the color tone down.