Finaplix Conversion with Boldenone Carrier

[Sworder]

Was planning on just crushing the pellets and using a 50mg/ml Fort Dodge EQ as the carrier. I can't think of why it would be problematic but figured I should ask. Will probably add a little BA, do you think BB will be needed? I am trying for a 75-100mg/ml Tren potency.

 

[Zway]

At what point do you remove the methylcellulose binder in the pellets?

 

[Sworder]

I am not doing the crystal method. Planning on crushing the pellets and let dissolve. Then filter and whatman.

 

[bigrobbie]

I've used Test Prop as my oil b4, just do your conversion as usual...I assume you're only converting one cart?

 

[Sworder]

Yes, just one cart. Thanks!

 

[MR10X]

I tried using just an oil to disolve the pellets and it didnt work very well. The best way i have found is BA/BB and 3 or 4 mil of the oil your going to use and let it sit for a couple of days but giving it a swirl every now an then.Then after it disolves i let it sit for long time,the longer the better and the binders settle to the bottom. Then use the balance of the oil left and flush the filter with it.You will lose some of the concentration in the filter,if you use the EQ need to use a lot,you will need at least 10 mil of the EQ. by the way test,EQ and tren is a very good combination i have used and got good results. AT 10mil of oil you will end up with about 150mg of tren per mil. The last batch i made i used 10mil of oil instead of 20mil so the mix would be more potent per mil,that way i could get more compounds in the same syringe to inject at the same time. I use grape seed oil and sesame seed oil that you can get from research supply.net in 100mil vials.

 

[Bill Roberts]

At 20% BB and even 5% BA, one can't get more than about 100 mg/mL of TA. So if using enough pellets for 150 mg/mL, a third of it will be left behind.

Also if wanting to use an existing steroid preparation as the oil, amounts of BA and BB will be additive. In other words, if that preparation already had as much as is reasonable and now more is used, now it will be too much.

I wouldn't use an existing steroid preparation as the oil. If insisting on doing so, I wouldn't add BA or BB.

 

[MR10X]

At 20% BB and even 5% BA, one can't get more than about 100 mg/mL of TA. So if using enough pellets for 150 mg/mL, a third of it will be left behind.

Also if wanting to use an existing steroid preparation as the oil, amounts of BA and BB will be additive. In other words, if that preparation already had as much as is reasonable and now more is used, now it will be too much.

I wouldn't use an existing steroid preparation as the oil. If insisting on doing so, I wouldn't add BA or BB.

I am using one cartrige of pellets 20%BB and 5% BA which totals 2 mil with the balance oil the total solution being oil totaling 10mil.since i am dissolving the pellets in the same amount of BB and BA adding another 8mil of oil wouldnt effect how much was dissolved in the solvents with a little oil added. i add the BB and BA to the pellets and add 3mil oil and let it dissolve untill all the pellets are dissolved then add 3 more cc oil and mix. I then filter the stuff that is on top of the binders that are settled in the bottom through a .22nm filter.I flush the filter with the remaining oil so the total of the whole amount is 10 mil. so are you saying that 2mil of BB and BA plus 3mil of oil wont completely dissolve the pellets and get all the tren from the pellets. I let the mixture sit for a long time (days) untill all the binders settle to the bottom.

 

[Bill Roberts]

I can't say whether 2 mL of BB/BA (in a 20/5 ratio) plus 3 mL of oil can dissolve 2 grams of trenbolone acetate, because I haven't tried that combination and it's not possible to extrapolate accurately.

But 2 mL of BB/BA in that ratio, plus 8 mL of oil (a total of 10 mL) definitely cannot hold 2 grams of trenbolone acetate. It will hold about 1 gram.

If the earlier, less-oil mixture actually did hold the 2 grams of TA, it would precipitate (crash) out in not that much time after adding the further 5 mL of oil.

If that's not happening, then the first 5 mL (2 mL of BB/BA, 3 mL of vegetable oil) only dissolved the first 1.0 grams, approximately, of TA.

In other words, you could use more BB, BA, and vegetable oil, and get about twice as much final product at the same actual concentration for the same amount of Finaplix.

So far as your basic method, other than the numbers, the general idea is fine. It's a reasonable expectation that, for example, 2 mL of BB/BA plus 3 mL of vegetable oil, or 4 mL of BB/BA plus 6 mL of vegetable oil, will probably hold at least as much TA as would be the case with mixing all the oil in in the first place.

 

[MR10X]

So you dont think 2000 mg of tren will disolve in 8 mg of BB/BA and oil.The last 2ml of oil would be used to flush the filter to get any remaining tren/oil mixture from the filter making up the 10mil total. So even though the pellets are totally disolved in 8mil oil and BB/BA you dont think all the tren is in the mixture even though the pellets are completely disolved.

 

[MR10X]

Heres exactly how i do my conversion using one cartridge of tren 2000mg.I put 3.4ml of BB,.6ml of BA and 3ml sesame seed oil in with the pellets and let it disolve the pellets,i will swirl the mixture a few times during the day to keep everything mixed together. I let it sit how ever long it takes for all the pellets to disolve,which is usually a couple of days.When all the pellets are disolved i add 4ml more oil and shake it so it totally mixes,when i let the mixture sit for a while the binders usually start settling to the bottom so i try to keep everything mixed together.I then let this mixture sit for 2 or 3 days or longer untill there is a lot of binders (white milky substance) settled on the bottom,i am in no hurry to finish the mixture so i let it sit for as long as i can.I then draw off the oil that is a golden yellow color with a syringe and filter it into a sealed vial through a 22.nm filter. all the mixture is sucked from the mixed solution leaving behind the binders in the mixing bottle. I use to use a coffee filter but found it messy and a lot of oil is left in the filter with the binders.I then use the last 2ml of sesame oil to flush through the filter and get whats left in there,i purge the filter with air to get all the oil from the filter. I end up with close to 10ml of tren and oil mixture. I try to keep everything consistant so each conversion is close to the same.

 

[Bill Roberts]

If the TA isn't crystallizing out after you add your final amount of oil -- it might take days or weeks -- then no, the 8 mL of solution isn't holding 2 grams of TA.

I don't see how all the TA can be dissolved. About a gram of it must be in your sediment, mixed with the filler.

Two thousand mg in 10 mL final would be 200 mg/mL, and it's not just me that has been unable to ever get that, no one has been able to get it with reasonable concentrations of BB and BA such as you have. It exceeds the solubility.

 

[MR10X]

OK then looks like i will have to go the 20ml oil route again,Thanks for you help. I was just trying make it a little more potent per ml so i would have to put so much in the syringe because i usually add EQ and test in the same syringe so i can do 1 shot instead of 2.

 

[Bill Roberts]

If you go to 1/2", 29 gauge insulin monojects (combined syringe/needle) that might reduce concern over amount needing to be injected, as the injections are so trivial.

Even though more may be required, as the injections are a maximum of 1 mL each.

It's pretty nothing to do for example 3 IM injections a day with these.

Though actually it sounds as if you may already be doing this?