Feeling dead inside 6 months post PCT from Test NPP cycle

[Danex87]

I did what was probably my fifth cycle at the beginning of the year using test e and NPP (350mg each pw) for about 5 months (3 for NPP) and felt pretty normal for the most part. Had some personal shit happen so I hopped off and PCT’d in June, 50 days of nolva and got bloods in September. Bloods showed:

Estradiol 43 pg/ml
FSH 25.7 miu/ml
LH 18.2 miu/ml
Total test 742 ng/dl
Free test 119.8 pg/ml

I took a tiny bit of exemestane 4 times over 2 weeks to knock down the estradiol as I thought that was causing the issue but it got even worse.
I thought I’d bounced back since test didnt look too bad but honestly since pct started I’ve felt worse and worse. Anhedonia to the max it’s like I don’t have a single drop of dopamine in my body.
The thought of sex repulses me and I used to pretty much be a sex addict. I got a more comprehensive test yesterday (dec 24) for a better insight and have a few of the results. Prolactin is normal, but the abnormalities I have so far are:

SHBG is 65 nmol/l
FSH 17.7 miu/ml
LH 13.5 miu/ml
DHEA sulfate 552 ug/dl

I haven’t gotten the T or E back yet but was wondering if anyone had any insight with these numbers? I’m 38 male, 5’8 and 150lbs of it lends any context and I’ll update when more results come in I just need some idea of what’s happening to me.
I’ve always bounced back quick after a cycle but this has been 6 months of a slow decline into severe anhedonia and a dead dick. I wake up every day with zero will to get out of bed and face the day because there’s just no joy whatsoever to feel.
I don’t know how much longer I can ride it out for but i won’t do anything to hurt myself. On the same coin I also hope I don’t wake up on a morning, it’s too much to bear honestly.

 

[explodingHeart]

Why not just go back on TRT?

 

[Danex87]

It messes with me too much and after this I just wanna steer clear of it. My test is usually in a normal range for my age so I was using to to get ahead for vanity purposes, now I just want my health back

 

[Adi18]

It messes with me too much and after this I just wanna steer clear of it. My test is usually in a normal range for my age so I was using to to get ahead for vanity purposes, now I just want my health back

This is one of those risks everyone talks about. Your natural test might be shut down. You should go talk to a dr. TRT might be the answer. It sounds alot like you have very low test. Symptoms mimic depression

 

[akilcelen]

You may have low t3 levels. Low t3 has the same symptoms with what u described

 

[Danex87]

This is one of those risks everyone talks about. Your natural test might be shut down. You should go talk to a dr. TRT might be the answer. It sounds alot like you have very low test. Symptoms mimic depression

My free and total test range from bloods I did in September said normal, if these new ones come back off maybe but from the sept tests those are within range

 

[Danex87]

You may have low t3 levels. Low t3 has the same symptoms with what u described

T3 and T4 are both within range as of yesterday

 

[Ryobi]

43 estradiol why would you take Examestine

 

[2lanes]

It messes with me too much and after this I just wanna steer clear of it.

Sure it wasn't the NPP messing with you? Because usually it's the NPP/Tren that causes "personal shit happening", not Test.

I don’t know how much longer I can ride it out for but i won’t do anything to hurt myself.

I would go back on Test (propionate) and keep my estrogen in a healthy range. Before doing anything stupid or coping with drugs/alcohol.

 

[webstar138]

Sure it wasn't the NPP messing with you? Because usually it's the NPP/Tren that causes "personal shit happening", not Test.



I would go back on Test (propionate) and keep my estrogen in a healthy range. Before doing anything stupid or coping with drugs/alcohol.

Why prop? So it kicks in faster?

 

[2lanes]

Why prop? So it kicks in faster?

Yes, also feels way more stable and much easier to find the right AI dose. Long esters are a rollercoaster.

Basically take a shot of test prop daily and adjust your AI also daily until you hit the perfect spot, where you feel stable and still feel good without being an emotional wrack.

 

[Oig2214]

I wonder what is making your FSH and LH so high... Total test and free test look good. At this point you should go to a doctor to see if there is anything else going on. Did you get blood work before ever starting anything to see what your baseline is? Also how is your life right now? How did you deal with the "personal shit" you said made you stop?

 

[webstar138]

Yes, also feels way more stable and much easier to find the right AI dose. Long esters are a rollercoaster.

Thoughts on how to transition from cyp to prop? Not trying to hijack the threads but curious how id go about timing half life clearance of cyp and introducing prop to try it out for myself.

 

[2lanes]

Thoughts on how to transition from cyp to prop? Not trying to hijack the threads but curious how id go about timing half life clearance of cyp and introducing prop to try it out for myself.

Don't overcomplicate it, just start the prop the day you would get your cyp dose. Maybe start a bit lower and work your way up. Use backloaded slin pins. Shallow im/sc is good enough, doesn't need to be deep into the muscle.

Prop will give you daily high estrogen spikes, so i would recommend to use AI also daily, you have to experiment with the doses until you hit the perfect spot with both.