Conspiracy charges

[J DUB]

This seems to be a great way to really get ass pounded in court. BigKarch, could you elaborate on what exactly is meant by a conspiracy and how involved one has to be in something to be charged with this.

For example, let's say you sent money to a source a year ago for $500 worth of steroids. Well, in the meantime you used it all, but then let's say the source gets busted and has your name and address on his computer, or if not this maybe there are Express mail receipts still on file somewhere. You could be charged with conspiracy to possess even with nothing in your possession, right?

It just seems like everytime someone gets charged with something drug related, these conspiracy charges always pile up and that seems to be where the dung pile gets high.

 

[Deacon]

I agree - in the scenario where you order the drugs a year ago and now they are all gone - they wouldnt have a case on you - that would be like going after the guy you know deals drugs but you never catch him with any on him - it just doesnt work - I also believe that in WI it takes several attempts before conspiracy can be proved - for instance the one that comes to mind is murder for hire - they like to get at least two or three meetings with the "hitman" before they go after the solicitor for conspiracy - but that may be a local standard only -

 

[kakaboom!21]

@Millard Hi, would you be able to check our DMs as soon as possible? It's about current situation with Hermes Lebs. Thanks a ton.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Conspiracy can be a single attempt.

You can 100% get charged with conspiracy without ever having possession. If they can get enough evidence that indicates you attempted to commit the crime, that's enough to charge.

An example is checking out tracking on your computer or phone, or walking into a PO box asking for a package.

Investigations take time and I know specifically of instances where people were charged with conspiracy to possess for things they never possessed, from a single order over a year in the past.

Also in many states, conspiracy is the exact same charge as actual possession, so there's no leeway just because you never actually possessed them.

As for your example, it might be a hard charge because there would need to be evidence that they actually sent those drugs. A ledger saying they did is, well, up to LE if they think that's enough.

Now if that shipment got seized, and they found that ledger, that would be bad.