Concerning Resting Heart Rate on first cycle

[Neegan02]

Hi all,

Currently running my first cycle at 450 mg Test,
400 mg Primo, 5 IU of HGH, and 750 HCG. I am around 6 weeks into the cycle, but HGh and Primo was added recently around 2 weeks ago. I recently caught my alarmingly high resting heart rate that began immediately after the test in my Apple watch log.

I’m sitting at a 105 bpm minimum with a BP of 120/70 or less. I am 190lbs at sub 15% body fat and mid twenties so this is far off from normal and toward the range of tachycardia. Will definitely begin lowering my dosages however I have been looking into low doses of Telmartistan and Nebivalol to keep this in check. I hope to be in this for the long term so I would appreciate any advice from any veterans that have dealt with this. Many thanks.

 

[Ghoul]

Hi all,

Currently running my first cycle at 450 mg Test,
400 mg Primo, 5 IU of HGH, and 750 HCG. I am around 6 weeks into the cycle, but HGh and Primo was added recently around 2 weeks ago. I recently caught my alarmingly high resting heart rate that began immediately after the test in my Apple watch log.

I’m sitting at a 105 bpm minimum with a BP of 120/70 or less. I am 190lbs at sub 15% body fat and mid twenties so this is far off from normal and toward the range of tachycardia. Will definitely begin lowering my dosages however I have been looking into low doses of Telmartistan and Nebivalol to keep this in check. I hope to be in this for the long term so I would appreciate any advice from any veterans that have dealt with this. Many thanks.

You don't need Telm. The reflex reaction to the drop in BP will raise your RHR.

Besides lowering dosages. Ivabradine will lower RHR without the sedative effect of Beta Blockers.

There's a good chance it's the rHGH, which raises RHR a couple of ways. One is from the water retention of edema putting a load on the heart. Counterintuitively, even mild dehydration or excess sodium intake makes this worse. Boosting hydration may help. It flushes sodium out of your system, leading to lower water retention in tissues.


On another note, it's great you're paying attention to your BP. Keeping that in ideal territory, along with lipids now, instead of waiting until your 40+, will keep your vascular system and organs in good shape for a lifetime.

 

[BamaCrazy]

Hi all,

Currently running my first cycle at 450 mg Test,
400 mg Primo, 5 IU of HGH, and 750 HCG. I am around 6 weeks into the cycle, but HGh and Primo was added recently around 2 weeks ago. I recently caught my alarmingly high resting heart rate that began immediately after the test in my Apple watch log.

I’m sitting at a 105 bpm minimum with a BP of 120/70 or less. I am 190lbs at sub 15% body fat and mid twenties so this is far off from normal and toward the range of tachycardia. Will definitely begin lowering my dosages however I have been looking into low doses of Telmartistan and Nebivalol to keep this in check. I hope to be in this for the long term so I would appreciate any advice from any veterans that have dealt with this. Many thanks.

Before you start self medicating yourself with member recommended pharmaceuticals get some lab work. It’s good to do that anyway 6-8 weeks into a cycle or TRT. HCG, HGH and increased E2 can cause water retention which could lead to issues.

Also, what other drugs/medications and supplements are you taking?

 

[Psy-chonaut]

So this is your first cycle?
A lot going on...

My RHR + BP went up, but leveled out, on my first run of 4-500 mg test...

I already had All sorts of problems with 2Iu of HGH, when I startet playing around with it...

If I would have thrown in Primo in my first 'run' it would have crushed my E2, I have poor aromatese-enzymes...

All I am saying with 'my own shit' of emperical data, is more is not better to start with in your first cycle, and you need to figure out how you react to each compound....

 

[Bandern]

Why are you running almost a gram of gear on your first cycle

 

[dinfar1337]

Hi all,

Currently running my first cycle at 450 mg Test,
400 mg Primo, 5 IU of HGH, and 750 HCG. I am around 6 weeks into the cycle, but HGh and Primo was added recently around 2 weeks ago. I recently caught my alarmingly high resting heart rate that began immediately after the test in my Apple watch log.

I’m sitting at a 105 bpm minimum with a BP of 120/70 or less. I am 190lbs at sub 15% body fat and mid twenties so this is far off from normal and toward the range of tachycardia. Will definitely begin lowering my dosages however I have been looking into low doses of Telmartistan and Nebivalol to keep this in check. I hope to be in this for the long term so I would appreciate any advice from any veterans that have dealt with this. Many thanks.

hello. how do you say your minimum heart rate is 105 when your bpm reading is 70?

 

[Neegan02]

You don't need Telm. The reflex reaction to the drop in BP will raise your RHR.

Besides lowering dosages. Ivabradine will lower RHR without the sedative effect of Beta Blockers.

There's a good chance it's the rHGH, which raises RHR a couple of ways. One is from the water retention of edema putting a load on the heart. Counterintuitively, even mild dehydration or excess sodium intake makes this worse. Boosting hydration may help. It flushes sodium out of your system, leading to lower water retention in tissues.


On another note, it's great you're paying attention to your BP. Keeping that in ideal territory, along with lipids now, instead of waiting until your 40+, will keep your vascular system and organs in good shape for a lifetime.

Lots of helpful bits here… appreciate it boss. Luckily I had added the hgh exactly 2 weeks ago and the test base only was way earlier. My calendar log shows an IMMEDIATE increase from a rhr of 60-70 to 90 within the week of me beginning the test only aspect initially to see how I would react. The hgh wasn’t introduced until much later than that. Will definitely look into what you said before as well and just dial it back.

 

[PopeyeTheSailerDude]

You need to cut off whoever recommended this cycle as your first. How are you supposed to know what’s causing it when you’re taking so much of three compounds at the same time for the first time :/ . Good luck.

 

[Neegan02]

hello. how do you say your minimum heart rate is 105 when your bpm reading is 70?

My resting heart rate is 105 beats per minute. My blood pressure is what is around 115/70-125/75

 

[Neegan02]

You need to cut off whoever recommended this cycle as your first. How are you supposed to know what’s causing it when you’re taking so much of three compounds at the same time for the first time :/ . Good luck

Definitely right. I will definitely dial everything back. Fortunately I began the cycle with test only for 4+ weeks initially. I have Apple Watch that shows the rhr skyrocketed the exact week I began the test only without any of the other compounds that actually didn’t increase it by a significant amount.

 

[Ghoul]

Lots of helpful bits here… appreciate it boss. Luckily I had added the hgh exactly 2 weeks ago and the test base only was way earlier. My calendar log shows an IMMEDIATE increase from a rhr of 60-70 to 90 within the week of me beginning the test only aspect initially to see how I would react. The hgh wasn’t introduced until much later than that. Will definitely look into what you said before as well and just dial it back.

90's not the end of the world. Most docs would do nothing for that RHR.

105 is a different story.

 

[Neegan02]

Before you start self medicating yourself with member recommended pharmaceuticals get some lab work. It’s good to do that anyway 6-8 weeks into a cycle or TRT. HCG, HGH and increased E2 can cause water retention which could lead to issues.

Also, what other drugs/medications and supplements are you taking?

Lab work is scheduled for soon. Wanted to be at the peak of the cycle to see exactly the worst that my body was at on AAS as I did bloods right before too. Just wanted to see exactly how my body reacted to things but I need to dial everything back for sure especially the test as that is what immediately sent my heart rate up when I ran it solo for the first few weeks.

 

[Neegan02]

90's not the end of the world. Most docs would do nothing for that RHR.

105 is a different story.

Yea I’m easily 105-110 resting heart rate now. I wake up at least 4 times at night and I don’t wanna play around with something like that for obvious reasons. Will just drop down dosages of everything until I can figure out how to handle the excessively high sympathetic tone it puts my nervous system in.

 

[Neegan02]

Why are you running almost a gram of gear on your first cycle

Unfortunately got here titrating up over time as I thought I was handling it well. Just wanted to see how my body would react to the main compounds I was planning on ever messing with.

 

[BigDadd7]

Hi all,

Currently running my first cycle at 450 mg Test,
400 mg Primo, 5 IU of HGH, and 750 HCG. I am around 6 weeks into the cycle, but HGh and Primo was added recently around 2 weeks ago. I recently caught my alarmingly high resting heart rate that began immediately after the test in my Apple watch log.

I’m sitting at a 105 bpm minimum with a BP of 120/70 or less. I am 190lbs at sub 15% body fat and mid twenties so this is far off from normal and toward the range of tachycardia. Will definitely begin lowering my dosages however I have been looking into low doses of Telmartistan and Nebivalol to keep this in check. I hope to be in this for the long term so I would appreciate any advice from any veterans that have dealt with this. Many thanks.

As said, thats a lot for a first cycle. Your stats sound like you have a great base to work with. Drop everything and keep the test around 400. Get your protein every day. Come back in a month and let's see where things are at.

 

[Bandern]

Unfortunately got here titrating up over time as I thought I was handling it well. Just wanted to see how my body would react to the main compounds I was planning on ever messing with.

Fair enough. I think you already know you’re doing too much too soon and need to back things down. You’ll likely make the same or better gains on half the gear with less or no side effects since you’ll be able to stay on longer.

 

[readalot]

I’m sitting at a 105 bpm minimum with a BP of 120/70 or less

Baseline RHR before cycle? 60 to 70 bpm IIRC?

90 or 100 both way too high. Drop the drugs and get your cardio/body comp in check before androgens. Take your time introducing and ramping androgen doses. Ramps dont seem too popular nowadays. Better than alternative of introducing tachycardia. It ain't a race.

 

[DECLAN]

Baseline RHR before cycle? 60 to 70 bpm IIRC?

90 or 100 both way too high. Drop the drugs and get your cardio/body comp in check before androgens. Take your time introducing and ramping androgen doses. Ramps dont seem too popular nowadays. Better than alternative of introducing tachycardia. It ain't a race.

Took a while before seeing this lol. Work on your heart rate by doing cardiovascular exercises and at least lower it to 50’s when off cycle so you have lots of leeway when you load up on the drugs.

If you’re like me there are certain compounds that will drive your HR insanely high. I am prescribed a beta blocker but have improved my cardio for the last two years that I am able to drop it even on cycle.

However, I am sensitive to semaglutide, it bumps mine to the 90-100’s.

This is a great example of learning to how your body responds to aas and what you need to do to ready yourself for this lifestyle.

 

[readalot]

90's not the end of the world. Most docs would do nothing for that RHR.

An AAS induced RHR elevation of 30 to 40 bpm? I'd hope they would tell the OP to abort mission if they has the full story. Very reckless on the OP's part. I am glad he posted here.

Just as an example, I just finished a "blast" of 420 mg/week Mast E plus 420 mg/week Test C. A few IU of GH/d as well. RHR went from 54 to 60. I sit in low 50s on TRT+.

After years of using androgens and hard cardio my RHR is mid 40s on real TRT which is uncomfortable since I tend to feel the PVCs (their resonance frequency seems to be in the 40s) at that low a RHR. So its funny after all these years I abuse Test a little bit for TRT+ to avoid PVCs

Take it slow OP.

 

[W3ak]

Take some propranolol to lower your resting heart rate, take it before bed or before a stressful time