4 day split (quads on push, hamstring on pull)

Deadpool99

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Hey guys, I have been doing a weird split to have a 4 day split to balance it with my lifestyle. I train religiously in the morning because if I train around 5 PM or after my gym becomes very crowded so anytime I have classes or I have to go out in the morning. I ensure it's a rest day so my approach is:
Day 1: Push and Quads (3 sets of pendulum squats and 3 sets of leg extension)
Day 2: Pull and Hamstring/Other lower body parts like glutes
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Pull/quads
Day 5: Pull/Hamstring/others
Day 6:Rest
Day 7: Rest

Notes: I honestly have progressed in the lower body department very well and I placed my quads at the end of my push day my hamstrings at the start of my pool day and what I noticed is my genetics is fully in my lower body as in I trained my first year without doing lower body and I had decently size quads like you think I trained them somewhat and now I have to training them. They like triple in size with as little volume, I used to do six sets of pendulum squats and 3 sets of leg extensions and then I cut it down to 3 sets and I still make the exact same progress. I also don't train calves because I find that I can max out any machine and slap an extra three 45lbs plates and do it for reps, and my calves are huge without training. My back is my second best part but legs take the cake always.

Only downside is Push days take a bit longer, extra 30mins, which takes it to a 2 hour session, mainly cuz in my chest presses/squats I take a 4min rest times so it extends the session. However pull day are as fast as 1 hour to 1.5 hours. Usually closer to the hour mark unless every machine is taken.

I was very interested in upper and lower, but I am never convinced the amount of volume is enough after a certain training age and noobie gains are out of the way, I feel like more a dedicated day for each muscle group is better. I know I get away with legs due to my genetics but even then I feel like it's a great split if you can tolerate a leg day after a push, which I can easily.
I really like to hammer my pull and my push musculature like I have to do 3 sets lat pull down/weight pull-ups/3 sets chest supported row/ 3 sets of rear delts/3 sets of wide grip rows for upper back. I feel like cutting down my sets on an upper day would hinder my progress but everyone says it's great.

addition note: I train adductors and abductors but stopped cuz ffs I can lift them so heavy it's like they are so fucking developed. Even my glutes are fucking strong af. I have very strong lower body. I only trained lower body cuz more muscle =more muscle mass = higher tdee. otherwise I don't chase the discomfort of having 1 pair of chino I can wear cuz every other pair of pants are small, and having to buy XL sweatpants while I have a fucking 31 inch waist, (medium size).

Would love to hear y'all's thoughts? Does the approach look good?
Is there a way I can improve? One thing I learnt is that everyone here has way more knowledge/experience than me and I am always open to learning.
 
Hey guys, I have been doing a weird split to have a 4 day split to balance it with my lifestyle. I train religiously in the morning because if I train around 5 PM or after my gym becomes very crowded so anytime I have classes or I have to go out in the morning. I ensure it's a rest day so my approach is:
Day 1: Push and Quads (3 sets of pendulum squats and 3 sets of leg extension)
Day 2: Pull and Hamstring/Other lower body parts like glutes
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Pull/quads
Day 5: Pull/Hamstring/others
Day 6:Rest
Day 7: Rest

Notes: I honestly have progressed in the lower body department very well and I placed my quads at the end of my push day my hamstrings at the start of my pool day and what I noticed is my genetics is fully in my lower body as in I trained my first year without doing lower body and I had decently size quads like you think I trained them somewhat and now I have to training them. They like triple in size with as little volume, I used to do six sets of pendulum squats and 3 sets of leg extensions and then I cut it down to 3 sets and I still make the exact same progress. I also don't train calves because I find that I can max out any machine and slap an extra three 45lbs plates and do it for reps, and my calves are huge without training. My back is my second best part but legs take the cake always.

Only downside is Push days take a bit longer, extra 30mins, which takes it to a 2 hour session, mainly cuz in my chest presses/squats I take a 4min rest times so it extends the session. However pull day are as fast as 1 hour to 1.5 hours. Usually closer to the hour mark unless every machine is taken.

I was very interested in upper and lower, but I am never convinced the amount of volume is enough after a certain training age and noobie gains are out of the way, I feel like more a dedicated day for each muscle group is better. I know I get away with legs due to my genetics but even then I feel like it's a great split if you can tolerate a leg day after a push, which I can easily.
I really like to hammer my pull and my push musculature like I have to do 3 sets lat pull down/weight pull-ups/3 sets chest supported row/ 3 sets of rear delts/3 sets of wide grip rows for upper back. I feel like cutting down my sets on an upper day would hinder my progress but everyone says it's great.

addition note: I train adductors and abductors but stopped cuz ffs I can lift them so heavy it's like they are so fucking developed. Even my glutes are fucking strong af. I have very strong lower body. I only trained lower body cuz more muscle =more muscle mass = higher tdee. otherwise I don't chase the discomfort of having 1 pair of chino I can wear cuz every other pair of pants are small, and having to buy XL sweatpants while I have a fucking 31 inch waist, (medium size).

Would love to hear y'all's thoughts? Does the approach look good?
Is there a way I can improve? One thing I learnt is that everyone here has way more knowledge/experience than me and I am always open to learning.
I messed up the split including 2 pull days in a row, it's supposed to be:
Day 1: Push and Quads (3 sets of pendulum squats and 3 sets of leg extension)
Day 2: Pull and Hamstring/Other lower body parts like glutes
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Push/quads
Day 5: Pull/Hamstring/others
Day 6:Rest
Day 7: Rest
 
I messed up the split including 2 pull days in a row, it's supposed to be:
Day 1: Push and Quads (3 sets of pendulum squats and 3 sets of leg extension)
Day 2: Pull and Hamstring/Other lower body parts like glutes
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Push/quads
Day 5: Pull/Hamstring/others
Day 6:Rest
Day 7: Rest
It looks like a good routine. The second post with the additional push day that is!

Do YOU like it? Is it fun for you?

To me, if you have a program you enjoy doing, you will get better progress out of that than a program you dislike. Especially long term.
 
It looks like a good routine. The second post with the additional push day that is!

Do YOU like it? Is it fun for you?

To me, if you have a program you enjoy doing, you will get better progress out of that than a program you dislike. Especially long term.
I think I can say I enjoy it, I am pretty determined and disciplined. I can rock any split that feels effective. tbh now that I think of it, the funnest part is training 4 days a week and that it gives me so much rest and free time especially around my university's schedule. And the extra sets of legs at the end of my push isn't an issue.

I feel like my superpower is that I don't use any pre workout drink/meal/compound like anadrol/etc... and train fasted, and whenever I'm at my lowest I can just incorporate these and for someone who never used it I guess it will give me an insane boost of motivation as I got no tolerance built.

Hopefully this split helps out someone inn my situation. It looks a bit funky but very flexible without sacrificing total weekly sets (or if ur like me and feel like if ur not dedicating a good no. of sets i.e. 6 sets for lats I feel like I won't grow optimally and push past plateaus) if u like that, for example when switching to a day a 4 day U/L where ur overall weekly volume drops.
 
Decent split, but you have 2x frequency, so don’t be afraid to cut sets. Even if you drop every exercise from 3 to 2 sets, you can train with more intensity and recovery will be much better. Just give it a try.
 
I personally think an upper lower is better, 4x leg training is alot on the cns. Or torso limbs. Or if you think ulul is hard to fit in 4 days...have s short 5th day just hitting small parts.
 
I personally think an upper lower is better, 4x leg training is alot on the cns. Or torso limbs. Or if you think ulul is hard to fit in 4 days...have s short 5th day just hitting small parts.
I thought it would be a bit hard but surprisingly progressing every week. 3 days of rest rly helps with recovery.
 
I've been running a very similar split for a while now too. In my case it's because my work is on call and I can find myself getting too many forced 'rest day's' in a week. When that happens I find that if I specialize too much in my workouts that I can go over a week without touching a body part. That's just too long imo.

This split allows me to do a get all major body parts in just two workouts. If work/life keeps me out of the gym for too long between - I still work the body parts. If the stars align and I can get in more workouts per week - then I have some other isolation or specialty work I can throw in if I feel I might be overworking a particular part that day.
 
I've been running a very similar split for a while now too. In my case it's because my work is on call and I can find myself getting too many forced 'rest day's' in a week. When that happens I find that if I specialize too much in my workouts that I can go over a week without touching a body part. That's just too long imo.

This split allows me to do a get all major body parts in just two workouts. If work/life keeps me out of the gym for too long between - I still work the body parts. If the stars align and I can get in more workouts per week - then I have some other isolation or specialty work I can throw in if I feel I might be overworking a particular part that day.
Ultimately, I believe 3 things make a good split. Consistently/Frequency/Volume.

- Train Consistently
- Hit every muscle twice a week minimum
- Achieve you’re desired weekly sets for each muscle

I see no error in your way, if you’re progressing and recovering efficiently. I can’t see anything being 100% superior, just being more convenient/enjoyable and more individual based.
 
I always loved the combination of pull and hams. usually set up like this

barbell rows
chins or any vertical pulling
stiff-legged deads
+ isolation work

simple as fuck but progression was great
 
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