Axle Labs Comprehensive Janoshik Testing

[adrenalytic]

DHB 100 batch 011 GCMS results finally arrived. Should have the HPLC soon.

Does the presence of oleic acid explain the yellow color? @Photon

 

[Whistles77]

DHB 100 batch 011 GCMS results finally arrived. Should have the HPLC soon.

Does the presence of oleic acid explain the yellow color? @Photon

Been questioning chatGPT about the GCMS

"Peak #21 – 7,11-Hexadecadienal – 24.91% (HUGE)

This aldehyde is extremely abundant—almost ¼ of the entire sample.
That alone is enough to noticeably yellow the oil."

 

[adrenalytic]

Been questioning chatGPT about the GCMS

"Peak #21 – 7,11-Hexadecadienal – 24.91% (HUGE)

This aldehyde is extremely abundant—almost ¼ of the entire sample.
That alone is enough to noticeably yellow the oil."

Good catch. Sounds like that's not a typical amount but I'm new to these reports. Would definitely like to learn more about what's 'supposed' to be in the drugs we inject lol.

 

[Whistles77]

Good catch. Sounds like that's not a typical amount but I'm new to these reports. Would definitely like to learn more about what's 'supposed' to be in the drugs we inject lol.

Lots of these compounds seem to be byproducts of oxidation of gso through heat or age. They aren’t healthy or normal in a well made quality product despite what bullshit the vendor wants to come up with and may result in local or systemic inflammatory responses.

 

[adrenalytic]

Lots of these compounds seem to be byproducts of oxidation of gso through heat or age. They aren’t healthy or normal in a well made quality product despite what bullshit the vendor wants to come up with and may result in local or systemic inflammatory responses.

This and the Tren 400 I tested were sold as MCT oil products so that would indeed be something I'd take issue with as a buyer. We shall see when the HPLC comes back.

 

[Whistles77]

This and the Tren 400 I tested were sold as MCT oil products so that would indeed be something I'd take issue with as a buyer. We shall see when the HPLC comes back.

ChatGPT can of course hallucinate.....but it seems pretty confident that it's GSO and not MCT

 

[newguy2]

ChatGPT can of course hallucinate.....but it seems pretty confident that it's GSO and not MCT

Seems like all his tests say MCT/GSO. Which is odd, leaves room to say it is one or the other.

 

[Whistles77]

Seems like all his tests say MCT/GSO. Which is odd, leaves room to say it is one or the other.

The tests are a quote of what is says on the labels of all Axle/808 vials "Carrier Oil MCT/GSO"

The website allows you to choose what you want though and it will still have the same label.

 

[crispybacon!]

The tests are a quote of what is says on the labels of all Axle/808 vials "Carrier Oil MCT/GSO"

The website allows you to choose what you want though and it will still have the same label.

That’s, uh, reassuring.

 

[newguy2]

The tests are a quote of what is says on the labels of all Axle/808 vials "Carrier Oil MCT/GSO"

The website allows you to choose what you want though and it will still have the same label.

For sure I understand the choice on the website but feels like it leaves room for confusion.

 

[Whistles77]

For sure I understand the choice on the website but feels like it leaves room for confusion.

Yup......especially when the GCMS suggests @adrenalytic received a different carrier than he ordered. I'm guessing it's being cheap on labels and the original intent was to use a sharpie to cross one out. Lots of shortcuts and mistakes in this vendor. Not a lot of owning the issues.

 

[newguy2]

Yup......especially when the GCMS suggests @adrenalytic received a different carrier than he ordered. I'm guessing it's being cheap on labels and the original intent was to use a sharpie to cross one out. Lots of shortcuts and mistakes in this vendor. Not a lot of owning the issues.

Agreed, enough weird stuff to keep me away honestly.

 

[Earthworm Jim]

Same def do not recommend this guy

 

[adrenalytic]

Yup......especially when the GCMS suggests @adrenalytic received a different carrier than he ordered.

Correct. I ordered from the 808 Labs website. There is no MCT/GSO selection there. I purchased based on this information.

 

[Ghoul]

.....but it seems pretty confident that it's GSO and not MCT

 

[Whistles77]

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Yup. Every take I’d managed to get was basically the same as what you see…… this stuff is utter shite.

Curious if it’s all the yellowed oils (eq, tc, te), but can only speculate without GCMS.

 

[crispybacon!]

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Good stuff! I mean, bad stuff, but good info.

Any way to assess whether this oil resembles the garbage found in most CN gear? Or is it even worse than that?

 

[Ghoul]

Good stuff! I mean, bad stuff, but good info.

Any way to assess whether this oil resembles the garbage found in most CN gear? Or is it even worse than that?

This was an analysis of the spectrum data posted above. It was run through a GPT 5.1 Pro workflow utilizing NIST library matching and Chemometrics/ML.

The same can be done for any oil if the raw
data is available.

 

[Photon]

DHB 100 batch 011 GCMS results finally arrived. Should have the HPLC soon.

Does the presence of oleic acid explain the yellow color? @Photon

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@Axle Labs
Are you reselling China oils?

SSA

Janoshik Analytical

WWB

Janoshik Analytical

CN Primo

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Whistles77]

@Axle Labs
Are you reselling China oils?

SSA

Janoshik Analytical

WWB

Janoshik Analytical

CN Primo

Janoshik Analytical

If he is…. They are much worse and degraded way beyond the Chinese examples you show. What he’s selling sounds much more toxic.

Given the number of bad products (and drama) that launched at the same time, I’m going to guess it’s junk ingredients being brewed domestically.

I don’t have access to tooling like Ghoul to compare the GCMS’s