Small air bubbles in Test-Ent home brew

[fina lover]

lol good for you. many here will argue with you bout that last post but i see people who have been doing this for years every day there good buddies of mine and there f'ing huge. i have not seen any lab work done but they appear to be fine.

 

[snuff-sann]

lol good for you. many here will argue with you bout that last post but i see people who have been doing this for years every day there good buddies of mine and there f'ing huge. i have not seen any lab work done but they appear to be fine.

Between every blast I have a bloodtest being done. It doesnn't really say if I'm healthy or not but it certainly will provide me with information if I have to worry about things. At this moment everything is fine. Need to have another bloodtest in 2 weeks time cause the first of december will be my next blast.

 

[fina lover]

How long have you been non stop blast and cruising so far. And what can the blood work not tell you. I have been thinking of doing the same thing but folks here have talked me out. I don't have ins so I can't really get blood work done. And what would the typical sides be, would it kill your naty test, maybe harm liver, heart probs? What are the issues with long term blast and cruises

 

[snuff-sann]

How long have you been non stop blast and cruising so far. And what can the blood work not tell you. I have been thinking of doing the same thing but folks here have talked me out. I don't have ins so I can't really get blood work done. And what would the typical sides be, would it kill your naty test, maybe harm liver, heart probs? What are the issues with long term blast and cruises

Only kickstarts can give you raised liver-values, alkylated orals.
Steroids increase LDL and decrease HDL, but the amount is many times overstated. They say that vains wil slowly become tighter and blood will circulate more difficult what gives a high blood pressure. You can take something for it like an aspirine. During a blast your body is under a lot of stress but it will recover during a rest, when you're cruising. Then you only take 250mg of test a week, that's all. It's a kinda TRT. Also HCG during a whole cycle, very low dosed will maintain activity of the leydig-cells, this is very important. When you go OFF you need to be able to start up your own system again. Leydig-cells need tonbe ready and at that moment.
I even think that cruising between cycles doesn't only help keeping your gains but it's also healthier then going OFF and starting a PCT.

 

[fina lover]

Can you give me a detailed example of a test only blast and cruise for 2 blast 1 cruise. Including all percationary measures. I'm 28 no kids would like some tho and would like to not have any perm sides.

 

[snuff-sann]

Can you give me a detailed example of a test only blast and cruise for 2 blast 1 cruise. Including all percationary measures. I'm 28 no kids would like some tho and would like to not have any perm sides.

Test-E, week 1-12, 500mg/w
Proviron, week 3-12, 25mg/d
HCG, week 2-12, 500IU/w

Test-E, week 13-22, 250mg/w
Proviron, week 13-22, 25mg/d
HCG, week 13-22, 500IU/w

Test-E, week 23-34, 500mg/w
Proviron, week 23-35, 25mg/d
HCG, week 23-34, 500IU/w

Nolvadex, week 36- 41, 20mg/d
Aromasin, week 36-39, 12,5mg/d

 

[fina lover]

looks good bro you have done your homework! good luck keep me updated

 

[snuff-sann]

I made the next 40ml of test-e.
Everything went fine, just like the vial of 40ml before.
I also incuded that first vial into the oven, cause it was cloudy.
After heating it a bit it was all clear again, that means it isn't contaminated.
I think it's just some water inside.
I tried to get rid of it by sticking a needle in the stopper but indeed, a drop of water will hang at the end of the needle and stays in the vial.
Ah well, at least I know everything is okay so I can have my next inject tomorrowmorning.

 

[someanddone]

Only kickstarts can give you raised liver-values, alkylated orals.
Steroids increase LDL and decrease HDL, but the amount is many times overstated. They say that vains wil slowly become tighter and blood will circulate more difficult what gives a high blood pressure. You can take something for it like an aspirine. During a blast your body is under a lot of stress but it will recover during a rest, when you're cruising. Then you only take 250mg of test a week, that's all. It's a kinda TRT. Also HCG during a whole cycle, very low dosed will maintain activity of the leydig-cells, this is very important. When you go OFF you need to be able to start up your own system again. Leydig-cells need tonbe ready and at that moment.
I even think that cruising between cycles doesn't only help keeping your gains but it's also healthier then going OFF and starting a PCT.

Please back up the bold (pun intended) statement above. ^^^^^^^^^^

Caution must be taken when making claims like that as there are many easily influenced young-guns that will do permanent damage if they follow your advice. At 42, you still have time left to not blast and cruise, its not just about pinning year-round. Solo didn't start blasting and cruising until he was in his 60s (correct me if I'm wrong Solo) and Deacon is coming up on 50 and he still recovers after every cycle.

You also mention that your body has time to recover during the cruise portion. Recovery is not possible while there is still certain levels of exogenous hormones in the body, which there will definitely be at 250mgs/wk.

Don't take all of this as an opening argument, rather, use this opportunity to influence some of the younger gullible members in a positive direction, (i.e. NOT cruising and blasting).

 

[snuff-sann]

Please back up the bold (pun intended) statement above. ^^^^^^^^^^

Caution must be taken when making claims like that as there are many easily influenced young-guns that will do permanent damage if they follow your advice. At 42, you still have time left to not blast and cruise, its not just about pinning year-round. Solo didn't start blasting and cruising until he was in his 60s (correct me if I'm wrong Solo) and Deacon is coming up on 50 and he still recovers after every cycle.

You also mention that your body has time to recover during the cruise portion. Recovery is not possible while there is still certain levels of exogenous hormones in the body, which there will definitely be at 250mgs/wk.

Don't take all of this as an opening argument, rather, use this opportunity to influence some of the younger gullible members in a positive direction, (i.e. NOT cruising and blasting).

I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong thoughts about my post. It's definately not my intention to give youngsters the wrong ideas about taking steroids. It's also my own descision and responsibility to stay ON. With having said that I don't encourage anybody to do the same as I do.

I also don't claim anything, I used the word 'think', it means that it's my opinion and not some kind of statement. Taking steroids is always taking risks.

 

[Bill Roberts]

Why suspect water when water was used at no step of the operation, assuming it wasn't?

The air bubble theory also should not be suspected if there was no extremely recent violent shaking.

You used 10 grams of testosterone enanthate powder (that is, assuming that the weight measurement was accurate) and a total of 30 mL of vehicle. If the testosterone enanthate takes up 1 mL per gram of material, as a rough estimation, the final volume could be estimated at about 40 mL.

That would be 250 mg/mL.

The pharmaceutical concentration is 200 mg/mL.

My guess would be that you are seeing material coming out of solution, but not crystallizing. This can give a cloudy appearance.

It doesn't take 300 degrees F to correct this. A moderate temperature such as a 70 C water bath, or even probably 50 C, would redissolve the material.

Also if it's an extremely fine cloud it could be injected as is: I would invert (turn over) the vial several times to mix it prior to injection so as to achieve same amount of drug injected per mL for each injection rather than perhaps drawing from more concentrated parts at some times and less concentrated at others.

 

[snuff-sann]

Why suspect water when water was used at no step of the operation, assuming it wasn't?

The air bubble theory also should not be suspected if there was no extremely recent violent shaking.

You used 10 grams of testosterone enanthate powder (that is, assuming that the weight measurement was accurate) and a total of 30 mL of vehicle. If the testosterone enanthate takes up 1 mL per gram of material, as a rough estimation, the final volume could be estimated at about 40 mL.

That would be 250 mg/mL.

The pharmaceutical concentration is 200 mg/mL.

My guess would be that you are seeing material coming out of solution, but not crystallizing. This can give a cloudy appearance.

It doesn't take 300 degrees F to correct this. A moderate temperature such as a 70 C water bath, or even probably 50 C, would redissolve the material.

Also if it's an extremely fine cloud it could be injected as is: I would invert (turn over) the vial several times to mix it prior to injection so as to achieve same amount of drug injected per mL for each injection rather than perhaps drawing from more concentrated parts at some times and less concentrated at others.

Thank you very much for your reply.
I have big respect for your knowledge and all of your articles.
I read a lot of them and think they are very interesting.

I would like to let you know that I live in England but I am a dutch guy from The Netherlands.
I always order my gear from Holland and over there the pharmaceutical concentration of testosterone entanthate is 250mg/ml.
It was my intention to make 250mg into 1ml.

You're absolutely right, no water has been used.
That's why I started thinking what else it could be and I think I know.
The whatman filters I use are not sterile and because of that I need to flush a bit of rubbing alcohol through the filter to make sure it's sterile.
Do you think that that could be the reason?

It was just a bit cloudy, not much.

 

[fina lover]

bill what about the fact that he heated the solution and seen condensation in the vile near the top. this could be caused by heat could it not? it was my initial assumption that he had the top off and heated the solution in a water bath, come to find out later this was never done. so the theory of the test falling out could be correct but at these small measurements i found that it is highly unlikely, now if he added more test then he says due to a faulty scale then i see it being more plausible. i always thought it would take something over the top like 20 grams to a vehicle of 30ml to cause this to happen. Also bill if the test was falling out couldnt he just add a small amount of BB to compensate for the weight to vehicle unbalance?

 

[Bill Roberts]

Thank you very much for your reply.
I have big respect for your knowledge and all of your articles.
I read a lot of them and think they are very interesting.

I would like to let you know that I live in England but I am a dutch guy from The Netherlands.
I always order my gear from Holland and over there the pharmaceutical concentration of testosterone entanthate is 250mg/ml.
It was my intention to make 250mg into 1ml.

You're absolutely right, no water has been used.
That's why I started thinking what else it could be and I think I know.
The whatman filters I use are not sterile and because of that I need to flush a bit of rubbing alcohol through the filter to make sure it's sterile.
Do you think that that could be the reason?

It was just a bit cloudy, not much.

Yes, that is a possible cause. In fact that is the most likely explanation given that this was the case.

I would not worry about this -- I'd just invert the vial several times to mix it fairly thoroughly before each draw. Injecting whatever trivial amount of isopropyl alcohol is involved is okay.

Fina lover is correct that if the problem were testosterone enanthate coming out of solution that a little more BB could probably solve it. But with the likelihood of isopropyl alcohol still being in the filter, I wouldn't add more BB. He's also correct that if condensation was observed with there being no other source of water that then this must have been water in the preparation.

If you had used only 2% BA, I'd recommend bringing it up to 5% though ordinarily I don't recommend that, but as there will be a trace of water that came along with the isopropyl alcohol, it would be better to be at 5%. But you are already there, and so everything should be okay I believe. It may look dubious to the eye, but if you are certain that this is exactly what you did, it is okay. I wouldn't try to get the water out by heating, myself.

 

[fina lover]

yes, the conclusion is i would leave it as is and make sure to mix test proper befor each injection its easier this way. haha

 

[Taino Warrior2009]

I'm not gonna go OFF buddy.
I'm 42 years old and don't mind yabbing myself the rest of my life.

Same here, AMEN.

 

[snuff-sann]

Thank you very much Mr. Roberts and Fina, I appreciate this a lot.

 

[fina lover]

Yes sir be safe have fun!

 

[snuff-sann]

Small update.
Last week I brewed another 40ml of testosterone entanthate, my second vial.
With the first vial they went into the oven to make sure all the bacteria and other crap would die.
The first vial went back in cause the oil was a bit cloudy and it seemed that a bit of condence was inside the vial.
So I put a needle in both of the vial-stoppers, hopefully that would make the condence dissapear.
And it worked. This morning, one week later the oil inside the two vial is crystal-clear, it looks very nice haha.
So immediately I injected myself with 500mg and it went very smooth.
Thank you all for the advice you gave to me.

 

[fina lover]

Have you seen results yet?
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