Whistles77
Member
Brother. Be calm. Things will get set right. We all want to have confidence in our vendors and see them put things right. Don't sweat it. You aren't crazy and don't need to be angry.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Wuhan Wansheng Biotechnology Co., Ltd. (USA, International)
- Thread starter Wansheng Biotechnology
- Start date
Translation: "So does WWB have a Telegram?"
Some people just won't do the work, even when you get them halfway there. It's a wonder some people can navigate this world on their own in any capacity.
And btw, lol to this:
Grow a spine. Maybe Hepius sells something that will help.
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Mushy404
Member
Whistles77
Member
Then @Wansheng Biotechnology look even worse. Why are you selling low quality gear and lying?
Whatever that yellow stuff is, your NPP looks even worse.
Buyer beware. Some people are getting sold shit NPP
Cavan? Is this shit in US warehouse too?
Mushy404
Member
For comparrison.
For clarity - MCT oil which they said this was mixed with isnt orange and would not turn the vial orange.
It's either severely oxidised (not even sure that would do it), or is something that is not NPP -likeTren or something.
For clarity - MCT oil which they said this was mixed with isnt orange and would not turn the vial orange.
It's either severely oxidised (not even sure that would do it), or is something that is not NPP -likeTren or something.
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niqTM
Member
I got EQ from them and it looks exactly like that but it came in a box that said "U300" with no stickers or anything. So take what you will from that.
Welcome to ordering from China… I was thinking of ordering from these guys but seeing if they don’t refund this I doubt I’ll be placing an order. Good luck man.
We did recently see some npp raws recently that were dark like that
EU or US?
Raww
Member
Yeah - my EQ came the same way. Every other vial was labeled and in a marked box - But the EQ300 looks like it's setup for selling to someone for relabeling and reselling.
47Ronin
Member
My EQ is a little more on the clear side. But same no labels but was labeled U300 on a white box
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Photon
Member
Thanks for sharing.
AlexDavis43
Member
People been running golden amber tren since forever
Maybe it's toxic sludge but decades of usage suggest it's either: 1) not toxic; or 2) a very weak and slow-acting toxin (like coffee)
"Clear = pure" might be more 'bro-science in the making' or just bubble boy fear mongering
¯\(ツ)/¯
Photon
Member
That's the difference.
Tren has always been that color, since forever, like you said.
What we're seeing going on is a change from the norm.
If your water suddenly yellow one day, wouldn't you wonder why?
If your clear oils suddenly turn dark yellow, wouldn't you wonder why either?
When you get the same batch of NPP with 3 different colors, would you also not wonder if it's actually the same batch?
Raww
Member
I'm not a brewer - but I asked AI - Don't know if this is correct, but it sure sounds sure of itself:
"
Why NPP Turns Dark (Unlike Tren’s Natural Golden Hue)
| Cause | Explanation |
|---|---|
| Oxidation of the nandrolone molecule | NPP lacks the conjugated triene system that gives tren its stable golden color. Instead, nandrolone is prone to oxidative browning when exposed to heat, air, or light — especially if the raw was old or improperly stored. |
| High-heat brewing | Cooking NPP above 130–140°F (54–60°C) for too long triggers Maillard-like reactions between the hormone and carrier oil impurities, turning it amber/brown. Tren can handle slightly higher heat without discoloring as fast. |
| Carrier oil breakdown | Darker oils (e.g., castor, sesame, or old grapeseed oil) oxidize faster and stain the solution. Using rancid or low-quality oil guarantees dark color. |
| Benzyl alcohol (BA) overuse or degradation | Excess BA (>2–3%) or old BA can caramelize under heat, adding reddish-brown tones. |
| Contamination or crashed hormone | If NPP crashes out and is re-dissolved with aggressive heating, it darkens. Metal contaminants (from poor filtering) also catalyze browning. |
| Compound | Pure Powder | Fresh Brew (Good Practice) | Common Dark Version (Cause) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Trenbolone | Light golden yellow | Pale to rich golden oil | Deep amber/red (only if severely oxidized) |
| NPP | White/off-white | Clear to very pale yellow | Amber → brown → reddish (oxidized, overheated, bad oil) |
Bottom Line
- Tren is naturally golden due to its conjugated triene chromophore.
- NPP turns dark only when damaged — it’s a red flag, not a feature.
If your NPP looks like dark honey or motor oil, it’s likely partially degraded. It may still be potent, but purity and safety are compromised. Always brew with fresh raw, high-quality oil, minimal heat, and proper BA/BB ratios.
Hammerhead78
New Member
Has anybody tried wwb primo or seen any testing on it
pewex
Member
That’s some clear tren. Clearer than most local brews I've seen. And it's coming from CN? I don't know about you, but I've got a gut feeling it's either not tren… or it's brewed with a lot of love.
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