EQ for the first time

[Mastedon]

If you can't raise your test above TRT without E2 going crazy its because you are fat. You should address that before dumping in more compounds but you probably wont.

I wouldn't call myself fat. As noted in my first post (which it appears you didn't read) I have visible upper abs but have not done a dexa recently since I've been spending a lot of money on labwork.

Interesting how instead of asking if I was fat and being helpful, you matter-of-factly said "its because you are fat".
You then assume that even if I were fat I probably would add more compounds instead of losing weight (even had someone been kind enough to offer helpful advice).

Everything ok with you? You sound angry...
You should look into what is causing this and get some help whether it's drugs or some mental issue. I'm happy to support you in any way I can.

 

[RockyP]

I wouldn't call myself fat. As noted in my first post (which it appears you didn't read) I have visible upper abs but have not done a dexa recently since I've been spending a lot of money on labwork.

Interesting how instead of asking if I was fat and being helpful, you matter-of-factly said "its because you are fat".
You then assume that even if I were fat I probably would add more compounds instead of losing weight (even had someone been kind enough to offer helpful advice).

Everything ok with you? You sound angry...
You should look into what is causing this and get some help whether it's drugs or some mental issue. I'm happy to support you in any way I can.

I can't say for sure but it's been my experience that this kind of response is usually some sort of projection based on insecurities in the person saying it. Anyone comfortable in their own skin and not chasing ghosts from their childhood would not say something like this, and would likely start out with "are you a high E2 converter?" The truth is that BF% does not tell the whole story on this matter, with lean guys sometimes converting a lot and vice versa. Jo Palacios recently said that when rebounding from a show (that is, starting at 4% BF or so) he likes to use Dbol to gain size quickly, and he HAS to use an AI when doing so.

 

[Ateam2023]

If you can't raise your test above TRT without E2 going crazy its because you are fat. You should address that before dumping in more compounds but you probably wont.

Ridiculous statement, i am below 10% bf and i still have a hard time controlling e2 on mere trt doses, Care to explain your statement?

 

[Ateam2023]

I wouldn't call myself fat. As noted in my first post (which it appears you didn't read) I have visible upper abs but have not done a dexa recently since I've been spending a lot of money on labwork.

Interesting how instead of asking if I was fat and being helpful, you matter-of-factly said "its because you are fat".
You then assume that even if I were fat I probably would add more compounds instead of losing weight (even had someone been kind enough to offer helpful advice).

Everything ok with you? You sound angry...
You should look into what is causing this and get some help whether it's drugs or some mental issue. I'm happy to support you in any way I can.

that guy is a complete idiot, and his post proves it, i to have a hard time controlling e2 even on trt doses, when i blast , its easy to keep it in check, gofigure

 

[dinfar1337]

that guy is a complete idiot, and his post proves it, i to have a hard time controlling e2 even on trt doses, when i blast , its easy to keep it in check, gofigure

i am also 10-12% bodyfat end of cut just maintaining until i can bulk rn with a estrogen of 116pg/pmol on 175mg testosterone haha

guess i need to go down to 1% bodyfat to eliminate the estrogen

 

[Damaged1]

I bloods results coming in a few days on my 6th week of current cycle. I’ll share.

 

[Damaged1]

If you can't raise your test above TRT without E2 going crazy its because you are fat. You should address that before dumping in more compounds but you probably wont.

Rough! Dude, I feel like we are all here because to one extent or another we are striving to be better versions of ourselves. Many better ways to get your point across without assumptions on someone’s body composition and generally being a prick.

 

[BigDadd7]

If you can't raise your test above TRT without E2 going crazy its because you are fat. You should address that before dumping in more compounds but you probably wont.

What an ignorant thing to say. Please define fat.

 

[Ateam2023]

i am also 10-12% bodyfat end of cut just maintaining until i can bulk rn with a estrogen of 116pg/pmol on 175mg testosterone haha

guess i need to go down to 1% bodyfat to eliminate the estrogen

isnt it the most frustrating thing to deal with, i only get @71 pg/ml e2 , but i was only running @150 mg test c per week , split doses M/Thur, but to my e2 that far out of range on just a small dose of Testosterone is very confusing and frustrating af

 

[Damaged1]

isnt it the most frustrating thing to deal with, i only get @71 pg/ml e2 , but i was only running @150 mg test c per week , split doses M/Thur, but to my e2 that far out of range on just a small dose of Testosterone is very confusing and frustrating af

I seem to do a little better going to M,W, F, inj freq. It’s not a lot better but it is better.

 

[Ateam2023]

I seem to do a little better going to M,W, F, inj freq. It’s not a lot better but it is better.

its funny you say this, because when i blast i do m-w-f injections too, hmmm something to consider, Thanks for input

 

[Banana Joe]

I wouldn't call myself fat. As noted in my first post (which it appears you didn't read) I have visible upper abs but have not done a dexa recently since I've been spending a lot of money on labwork.

If I had to guess, based on getting measured via caliper*, at a lower BF percentage, I would say I have (kinda) visible upper abs still at or maybe even above 15%, but maybe I overestimate how fat I was back then.
Dexa surely is more accurate, but you should be able to get your ballpark % via a simple caliper measurement.

Done by a sports training facility, so presumably a valid measurement.

 

[dinfar1337]

isnt it the most frustrating thing to deal with, i only get @71 pg/ml e2 , but i was only running @150 mg test c per week , split doses M/Thur, but to my e2 that far out of range on just a small dose of Testosterone is very confusing and frustrating af

ive even ran 500 mg test with not this high estrogen before with ed injections

ive moved to e7d injections now and its this high on 175mg test c.

i truly dont understand it but im doing longer esters now to heal scar tissue so i just have to deal with it, upped eq to 200mg instantly and got test c to 300. will retest in 8 weeks and going from feels probably up the eq to 300mg.

ill deal with proper trt numbers next trt since ive been too neglient in bloodwork and only done every 3 months since i was confident in my numbers.

its fine tbh i know what im doing whatever the situation throws at me i'll just learn my own body better.

no gyno gained this time around atleast

 

[Damaged1]

its funny you say this, because when i blast i do m-w-f injections too, hmmm something to consider, Thanks for input

Yeah, I think
I said it in an earlier post, most of my sides seem to stem from fluctuations in my levels and once I can stabilize things seem to settle down.

 

[Damaged1]

ive even ran 500 mg test with not this high estrogen before with ed injections

ive moved to e7d injections now and its this high on 175mg test c.

i truly dont understand it but im doing longer esters now to heal scar tissue so i just have to deal with it, upped eq to 200mg instantly and got test c to 300. will retest in 8 weeks and going from feels probably up the eq to 300mg.

ill deal with proper trt numbers next trt since ive been too neglient in bloodwork and only done every 3 months since i was confident in my numbers.

its fine tbh i know what im doing whatever the situation throws at me i'll just learn my own body better.

no gyno gained this time around atleast

It would be interesting to see more often bloodwork in you. I bet you could get totally dialed in.

 

[Ateam2023]

If I had to guess, based on getting measured via caliper*, at a lower BF percentage, I would say I have (kinda) visible upper abs still at or maybe even above 15%, but maybe I overestimate how fat I was back then.
Dexa surely is more accurate, but you should be able to get your ballpark % via a simple caliper measurement.

Done by a sports training facility, so presumably a valid measurement.

calipers are good for "trends" , but vary alot, calipers "assume a fixed relationship between sub q fat and visceral fat (which varies by age,sex and genetics) And is less accurate in very lean or obese individuals, Operator skill etc, alot of factors to play with using calipers , quality of calipers, also, Get a Dexa and be rid of all suspected bf % measurements..

 

[Damaged1]

I have only ever used primo for my E2 control steroid so excited to try EQ. Pack landed last night so I’m ready to go.

 

[dinfar1337]

It would be interesting to see more often bloodwork in you. I bet you could get totally dialed in.

hopefully, i thought i had it dialed in before but small changes do so much..

i truly dont know what my testosterone is either, its capped at 1500 and anywhere from 100-175mg trt ive ran it comes back as >52nmol.

i might be a very strong responder which explains sudden changes with frequency etc.

for now ive just started early blast since i was 1 week away from winter blast and will do monthly bloodwork coming off to dial it in afterwards.

 

[Ateam2023]

hopefully, i thought i had it dialed in before but small changes do so much..

i truly dont know what my testosterone is either, its capped at 1500 and anywhere from 100-175mg trt ive ran it comes back as >52nmol.

i might be a very strong responder which explains sudden changes with frequency etc.

why capped tests?

 

[dinfar1337]

why capped tests?

shit country, simple as that sadly its the best i can get