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newguy2 said:
Are you saying that this exact rest has been done with other vendors and this additional "material" was not found?

For some reason I was under the impression that you asked Jano to specifically test for plastic in these samples.
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The testing done is all the same, GCMS.
All i did was provide a polystyrene sample and requested that he looked out for whatever was in that sample in the TRE400 vials.

It will turn up in any other GCMS test, but he would not comment on it (because without a polystyrene sample, we would not know where it came from)

-- It did not turn up in any other vendor samples.
Coincidence maybe?
Nothing is "confirmed.
 
BigDadd7 said:
I haven’t tried mast. At this point, Im stocking up on gear I can find that's compatible with my goals.

I drink on date night once a week. I'm always the designated driver, so I limit myself to two if we're out for three to four hours.

I'm too old to get my chest cut open. I've managed to avoid gyno this far. I really want to stay on top of it before this becomes an issue!
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Mast bottoms out some folks. Far as the chest it’s a 45 minute procedure, 4-5 week recovery for upper body work. Few guys on our team have had it done and they are 50+. Says it changed their life. I’m considering it myself. One less thing but if you don’t compete I can see why to not get it done.
 
gymdude said:
Mast bottoms out some folks. Far as the chest it’s a 45 minute procedure, 4-5 week recovery for upper body work. Few guys on our team have had it done and they are 50+. Says it changed their life. I’m considering it myself. One less thing but if you don’t compete I can see why to not get it done.
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No competing for me. I just don't want to look like another fat, has-been, old man with a beer belly and a Tommy Bahama shirt. I prefer to look like an old pimp that may or not have slept with some young guys mom.
 
Photon said:
The testing done is all the same, GCMS.
All i did was provide a polystyrene sample and requested that he looked out for whatever was in that sample in the TRE400 vials.

It will turn up in any other GCMS test, but he would not comment on it (because without a polystyrene sample, we would not know where it came from)

-- It did not turn up in any other vendor samples.
Coincidence maybe?
Nothing is "confirmed.
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Iiiiiiinteresting. That's a bit of a different story. Hopefully it's a high concentration issue exclusively.
 
Ateam2023 said:
What thread?
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Mastedon

Thread 'EQ for the first time'

So I don't have a lot of history with multiple compound cycles but the little experience I have has been great.
I've ran Test 200, 250 and 300 (not very high I know, I convert E unfortunately easily) and I've also tried Primo, NPP as well as 8 weeks of Tren Ace (and TBol and Anavar).
I'm on TRT so I'm usually running 200mg of Test Cyp. I get bloodwork done both on and off cycle.
6'5" and 240lbs having cut down from 260. Not sure what body fat % is but I have visible upper abs. Not sure if that helps at all, I haven't had a recent dexa and not planning to. I've been lifting for decades...
 
I’m running test c 250 mg/wk for 8 weeks and deca 100 mg/wk for 2 weeks now, all primals stuff. I’m about a month and half away from draw blood and see how everything is looking. A couple weeks ago I took .25 mg Arimidex, not primals, to cut down some bloat but overall I’m happy with my progress.

Currently on the fence about what is next to come. I might bump up the test and deca for a blast or I might use some Anavar to help shed some more fat before running a blast.

If I had to guess I would say initially I was little over 20% b.f. before starting and now a little under 20%. To this point I haven’t been overwhelmed with anything but I tried to prepare as much as possible before starting. MESO has been my only point of reference and am thankful for all the help I’ve gotten along the way.
 
Tdeck81 said:
I’m running test c 250 mg/wk for 8 weeks and deca 100 mg/wk for 2 weeks now, all primals stuff. I’m about a month and half away from draw blood and see how everything is looking. A couple weeks ago I took .25 mg Arimidex, not primals, to cut down some bloat but overall I’m happy with my progress.

Currently on the fence about what is next to come. I might bump up the test and deca for a blast or I might use some Anavar to help shed some more fat before running a blast.

If I had to guess I would say initially I was little over 20% b.f. before starting and now a little under 20%. To this point I haven’t been overwhelmed with anything but I tried to prepare as much as possible before starting. MESO has been my only point of reference and am thankful for all the help I’ve gotten along the way.
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Why so long on the blood work?
 
gymdude said:
Mast bottoms out some folks. Far as the chest it’s a 45 minute procedure, 4-5 week recovery for upper body work. Few guys on our team have had it done and they are 50+. Says it changed their life. I’m considering it myself. One less thing but if you don’t compete I can see why to not get it done.
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And $5k +
 
BigDadd7 said:
I'm down to 250 test C after running 450 for a while. I used tirz to cut 20 lbs. I'm in my late 50s and the only way I can keep extra weight is to make sure it's muscle and not too much fat. I don't care about a six pack anymore, but I have no interest in having a keg either. I lost a little muscle in that cut, so I'm working on putting back 5-6 pounds of clean muscle, and then dropping back 5 more pounds of fat. I want to stay around 200.

I've ran numerous cycles with tren and deca in the past. As I've gotten older, deca has become a no go for me. It's not worth the sides and management for me. Tren dosed low is still manageable. 200 tops and I have to stay on top of bloods and make sure I don't get too bitchy.

I'm currently running 4iu hgh daily, 250 testC, and 100 trenE weekly. I pin twice a week (125/50).

My biggest issue right now is e2 management. It's never been an issue in the past. On 450 test, I was taking 12.5mg aromasin twice a week. My e2 came back at 104. I dropped my dose to 250, dropped the aromasin, and got retested a month later (two weeks ago). I had not added the tren yet. My e2 was 128. I'm very disappointed with that. I've turned into an e2 super-converter apparently. I'm now taking 25mg aromasin twice a week and I will retest in a few more weeks. I would like it under 60. I'm still waiting on the results for free/total test. Bizarrely, e2 results came back after 10 days.

I'm going to add in some eq at around 150/week and see if that helps with the e2.

In the gym, I have a chest, side delts, and tris day. A back day with lats, traps, and some accessories. I run a basic leg day with hack squats (old man back), hams, and glutes. I try to get to the gym 5 days a week, but it's usually only four days.

I'm re baselining my tdee after cutting. Once I get that solidly sorted, I'll add 250-300 calories a day while I put some more muscle on. Always a gram/lbs protein. I could be better with carb/fat, but I'm mostly satisfied with the results.

Testing wise, lipids and blood sugar are ok. Hematocrit could be lower, but it's not awful.

My real unknown at this point is eq. I've never ran it or primo. I'm hoping it will help knock back this e2 so I don't have to take as much AI.

I am running only primal gear.

I would appreciate any insight people have to share.
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Two things my friend … I’m no expert but …

Were you running Tren when your E2 came back at 104 ? I’ve read Tren can sku E2 levels on labs.

Ever think about pinning Monday / Thrs / Sat ? Instead of 2 days a week, could help as well.
 
phenominal34 said:
Two things my friend … I’m no expert but …

Were you running Tren when your E2 came back at 104 ? I’ve read Tren can sku E2 levels on labs.

Ever think about pinning Monday / Thrs / Sat ? Instead of 2 days a week, could help as well.
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No tren for either of the e2 tests, and they were both ultra sensitive from Quest.

I hate pinning. It's just been too many damn years of stabbing myself.
 
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