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Feel like this is devolving into madness a bit no?
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I've been in your shoes, sort of. I've presented some product to the executive suite and said it provides, let's say, "real-time data analytics". And what I meant, and more importantly what I knew the buying decision-makers would interpret it to mean, is "interactive analytics that run fast enough to make you happy."

That's when some pedantic motherfucker from the engineering team, for whom I have an entirely different presentation that doesn't (mis)use a term of art like that, pops up and says "oh really? Your platform provides guaranteed bounded latency for arbitrary analytical queries?" with a scoff and a tip of the fedora. And then I've got to walk it back and explain what colloquial meaning we're using, and what our actual guarantees and latencies are, and of course more complex queries take more time, blah blah blah. It's annoying, but if we can't answer that guy, then he'll keep chipping away at our credibility and reputation within the company and we'll never get the sale, because in his mind, if we're wrong about something as basic as that, nothing we say is trustworthy.

He will do that even if he's used the product and found it satisfactory. That's not good enough. Somebody is wrong on the Internet.

Now you've got a pedantic motherfucker popping up and calling you out on some claims that most of us just ignored or interpreted in some way that made more sense. Maybe some of the duller knives in the drawer believed you literally, I don't know, but I doubt many did. So maybe "Pharma grade flow hood" really means "I bought a flow hood from a legitimate medical/lab equipment supplier and its specs are pretty good and we didn't just knock something together out of plywood", and maybe "pharma quality APIs" means "tests at 99% or greater purity". If you really are better than the next guy, that's enough to win all the business you want. Just tell us what you really meant and then back it up.

We don't really know what you mean, though, unless you tell us, and we don't know if we can trust those claims unless you provide evidence. Maybe there's a huge surprise here and you really do comply with a bunch of pharma manufacturing standards. There's not much point in doing that, though, unless you get some credit for it. Showing evidence would get you some credit.

But literally nobody expects that to be the case. If you responded to @readalot and said "we kind of misspoke on 'pharma grade' and actually should have said 'blah', which we think is quite good compared to others and entirely sufficient for this application", what most of us would hear is the good stuff. We're not going to clutch our pearls because you clarified that a statement we never believed or gave you any credit for in the first place isn't true.

Please help put this debate to rest and take your thread back. Just answer the damn questions.
Let me see if I understand your point. You (and probably readalot) are going to inject this guy's stuff, as the Jano results check out. You're complaint is simply that he won't admit he brews his gear in a dirty bathtub like every other source on the board.

Is that right?
 
Let me see if I understand your point. You (and probably readalot) are going to inject this guy's stuff, as the Jano results check out. You're complaint is simply that he won't admit he brews his gear in a dirty bathtub like every other source on the board.

Is that right?
I haven’t bought anything and don’t plan to anytime soon as things go. No track record. I prefer inscrutable three letter Chines sources.

If he can show other reasons to trust this gear, cool, that’s a win. I want to believe. I don’t buy, possess, or inject illegal drugs tho. Are you a cop? You have to tell me if you’re a cop.

Separately, there is the act of questioning grand claims that might lead others to make poorly informed decisions. Or just because that’s what we do here. That’s what some people are doing and I’m glad.

Finally, my advice to Primal in that post is meant to help bring this debate to a close. Dude’s got a pit bull clamped on and he’s trying to shake it off. Ain’t working. That has no bearing on my buying decisions.
 
Let me see if I understand your point. You (and probably readalot) are going to inject this guy's stuff, as the Jano results check out.

You know most Jano results don’t tell you anything except what the AAS concentration is, right? And There’s a few other things to be concerned about.

Very little of what readalot has asked for clarification on is concerned with whether they ship the right API at the right dosage. I’m assuming that will check out fine.
 
I think more is better. They tell you it’s toxic to keep you small, skinny, weak, and fat. Leave the big boy doses to the big boysView attachment 337223
Looking big, juicy, and just straight-up solid, man. It’s clear this isn’t just about the gear - that’s hard work, a dialed-in diet, and pure discipline showing. You’re pulling it off big time… and hey, those 1.5 grams of Tren are clearly earning their paycheck!

It’s genuinely awesome to see someone with such a killer physique - only a tiny fraction of people on gear ever reach this level. There’s nothing to criticize here; if anything, it’s worth respecting the grind, because not many could pull off a shape like that.
 
Tried Tren once and bro, it turned me into a full-blown telenovela character. I was out with my girl, she made a tiny joke like, “You always flex in the mirror,” and suddenly I’m clutching my imaginary pearls, whispering, “How dare you…” Then I stormed off into the night like some tragic hero.

Even my cat wasn’t safe - he meowed the wrong way, and I straight-up told him, “Show some respect in my house.” That was just 500mg of Tren E. After that, I knew - I’m not built for this life.
I guess I should consider myself one of the lucky - tren does very little to me in the way of sides. I have a generally calm and subdued demeaner to begin with, which very well may help.
 

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