Opti anavar 50mg tablets. Janoshik Test

[Musclechick2]

That’s an interesting assertion. What are the filler(s) in question, and how did you determine that?

Sometimes lactose is used in the filler. Cornstarch is another. Baking soda in large amounts causes issues as well even pharma grade can come with issues.

 

[Rakusa]

I asked for accurate testing. Here let me mansplain to you: 10 mg isn’t standard universal dosing for women. FYI and 2) Not one person has accurate testing put up in the last couple months for every mg dose. And most people if they are smart don’t want testing from last year.

some call that mansplaining while others might call it relevant and important information towards a discussion.

 

[Musclechick2]

some call that mansplaining while others might call it relevant and important information towards a discussion.

Of which those “ boys” didn’t get

 

[Musclechick2]

We look forward to seeing your testing results!

I would think since this forum is about harm reduction it would be expected more.

 

[verylargeshoes]

I would think since this forum is about harm reduction it would be expected more.

Well I’m pretty new here, but as I understand it, the forum doesn’t do the work. The people in it do. That’s you and me. There’s nobody else to expect things from. Nobody owes anybody anything but a good smartass post now and then. A source can post tests, but unless you already trust that source, that’s a very low quality data point. It’s up to the individuals in the community to make up the difference.

If you see a gap, and you’re clearly knowledgeable enough to address it, why not step in and help? I don’t think anybody needs to be reminded that the state of things is pretty poor in general. Not enough tests, and not enough product, and not good enough product in too many cases.

In fact, I just got some 10mg var from Devon. Maybe I’ll get off my ass and get it tested, just to help out the community. Maybe even you, if your better sources run dry.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

If you see a gap, and you’re clearly knowledgeable enough to address it, why not step in and help? I don’t think anybody needs to be reminded that the state of things is pretty poor in general. Not enough tests, and not enough product, and not good enough product in too many cases.

No fucking way, this has to be a troll.

I don't understand how people that complain that there aren't enough test results do not perform/post any of it if their own

 

[verylargeshoes]

Sometimes lactose is used in the filler. Cornstarch is another. Baking soda in large amounts causes issues as well even pharma grade can come with issues.

I don’t get along super well with lactose, but FWIW my reaction to lactose doesn’t sound a lot like the GI issues people commonly describe. E.g. appetite isn’t affected. Worth thinking about, though.

 

[verylargeshoes]

No fucking way, this has to be a troll.

Yeah, it’s starting to feel like that, and there’s very little sport to be found in this battle of wits.

 

[Musclechick2]

Well I’m pretty new here, but as I understand it, the forum doesn’t do the work. The people in it do. That’s you and me. There’s nobody else to expect things from. Nobody owes anybody anything but a good smartass post now and then. A source can post tests, but unless you already trust that source, that’s a very low quality data point. It’s up to the individuals in the community to make up the difference.

If you see a gap, and you’re clearly knowledgeable enough to address it, why not step in and help? I don’t think anybody needs to be reminded that the state of things is pretty poor in general. Not enough tests, and not enough product, and not good enough product in too many cases.

In fact, I just got some 10mg var from Devon. Maybe I’ll get off my ass and get it tested, just to help out the community. Maybe even you, if your better sources run dry.

So if it’s a “
You and me” thing then I would think the sources should have pressure on them to test more. Makes zero sense to me how one tested over 20 mg higher and people aren’t more annoyed at that. And I can trust someone all day and that’s why people get lazy. Case in point: Devon had test c
with E in it. It’s not a major deal but if your thinking your using masteron and it’s test it’s a big deal. Now I will give Devon credit it’s real. Their 10mgs are def legit. My only complaint is the min order. Was 100 then 150 now 200. Keeps changing.

 

[Rakusa]

I would think since this forum is about harm reduction it would be expected more.

it's always greatly appreciated, but someone has to pay for all that.

If I was a girl I think I would be trying to get my hands on a small amount of raws, get them tested and use them over a couple of years. I would not trust random labs or results with my femininity. A vendor might have lab results for batch A, but what if what you just received is already batch B?

Of which those “ boys” didn’t get

This is most of the time a friendly place to be, most people on here wanna learn and are open to good discussion. I don't think anyone values your opinions less, only because you are a woman. It's true that women don't participate as much in discussion on here, but most people I think would absolutely read more into the nuances and differences of women bodybuilding, if given the chance.

You don't impress anyone by lashing out towards people, but if it happens it's not a big deal, if there is something else you provide besides that.

Just be yourself.

 

[Musclechick2]

I don’t get along super well with lactose, but FWIW my reaction to lactose doesn’t sound a lot like the GI issues people commonly describe. E.g. appetite isn’t affected. Worth thinking about, though.

Yeah that explained the gastro issues I had switched to a Different brand and it cleared up. Had to look into that because I never have stomach issues w var.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Female response to AAS is far less known generally, we obviously know what could potentially happen but reporting by females is often limited at best. More input from female bodybuilders I feel would be of tremendous value to the community from an educational standpoint. I can understand the offense you're taking from comments made but perhaps enlighten us ?

This is a pretty rare chance to learn. All these coach/influencers say they only recommend Var and GH to their female clients. I hear all these stories (e.g. from Coach Kolton and his kind of seedy exposés) about female BBs who claim to have taken only Anavar, but have voice deepening, facial structure changes, and who knows what else that doesn’t show on Instagram videos.

But I bet @Musclechick2 has a much more informed knowledge of what those women are really taking. No doubt the same competitive pressures that push men to suicidal doses can push women to use compounds far less safe than Anavar.

So the implication was that female competitors are taking “a bunch” of test and tren. That’s a shocking roll of the dice.

 

[Musclechick2]

it's always greatly appreciated, but someone has to pay for all that.

If I was a girl I think I would be trying to get my hands on a small amount of raws, get them tested and use them over a couple of years. I would not trust random labs or results with my femininity. A vendor might have lab results for batch A, but what if what you just received is already batch B?



This is most of the time a friendly place to be, most people on here wanna learn and are open to good discussion. I don't think anyone values your opinions less, only because you are a woman. It's true that women don't participate as much in discussion on here, but most people I think would absolutely read more into the nuances and differences of women bodybuilding, if given the chance.

You don't impress anyone by lashing out towards people, but if it happens it's not a big deal, if there is something else you provide besides that.

Just be yourself.

I responded. I am being myself What you give me is what you will get back from me. The. End.

 

[Wizbang]

This is a pretty rare chance to learn. All these coach/influencers say they only recommend Var and GH to their female clients. I hear all these stories (e.g. from Coach Kolton and his kind of seedy exposés) about female BBs who claim to have taken only Anavar, but have voice deepening, facial structure changes, and who knows what else that doesn’t show on Instagram videos.

But I bet @Musclechick2 has a much more informed knowledge of what those women are really taking. No doubt the same competitive pressures that push men to suicidal doses can push women to use compounds far less safe than Anavar.

So the implication was that female competitors are taking “a bunch” of test and tren. That’s a shocking roll of the dice.

I agree, females sharing their experiences with AAS are fairly rare and I would often say guarded if answering at all. I do however understand that "we" as a collective of largely male bodybuilding enthusiasts can quickly make a female feel uncomfortable and not want to share. I am trying to get more information without that endpoint.

 

[Musclechick2]

This is a pretty rare chance to learn. All these coach/influencers say they only recommend Var and GH to their female clients. I hear all these stories (e.g. from Coach Kolton and his kind of seedy exposés) about female BBs who claim to have taken only Anavar, but have voice deepening, facial structure changes, and who knows what else that doesn’t show on Instagram videos.

But I bet @Musclechick2 has a much more informed knowledge of what those women are really taking. No doubt the same competitive pressures that push men to suicidal doses can push women to use compounds far less safe than Anavar.

So the implication was that female competitors are taking “a bunch” of test and tren. That’s a shocking roll of the dice.

and the bullshit of women saying I just take Anavar is one thousand percent false. I see first hand what cycles and what not to do. These girls go oh let’s blame it on Anavar. When it reality they are running 300 mg or test and tren in doses I would never dream and most of them are wearing wigs to prove it. And you know why they say it’s the Anavar? Because they figure people are so uneducated they will buy that crap hook like and sinker.

 

[Wizbang]

On the topic of other drugs besides var and gh, I have corresponded with some Brazilian female bodybuilders who have used tren, which again in my mind seemed crazy and by all sources not something most female bbers use. I feel like we know so little about how these drugs impact females it would go a long way to harm reduction for those who have used them to vary degrees to weigh in and clear some of the misconceptions.

 

[Wizbang]

But I feel like we should make another thread on all of this as this is taking away from the testing that was done.

 

[Musclechick2]

On the topic of other drugs besides var and gh, I have corresponded with some Brazilian female bodybuilders who have used tren, which again in my mind seemed crazy and by all sources not something most female bbers use. I feel like we know so little about how these drugs impact females it would go a long way to harm reduction for those who have used them to vary degrees to weigh in and clear some of the misconceptions.

Used that 8 years ago would never recommend. It’s one of the most harsh drugs out there. Most toxic. Wouldn’t have a male take it either. Honestly unnecessary

 

[RaddishPork]

I agree, females sharing their experiences with AAS are fairly rare and I would often say guarded if answering at all. I do however understand that "we" as a collective of largely male bodybuilding enthusiasts can quickly make a female feel uncomfortable and not want to share. I am trying to get more information without that endpoint.

90% of the time a female gets uncomfortable and pushed out it's because they took something way too personally and then go on a tirade about men being idiots and ignorant blah blah blah.

You can't bring a sensitive female ego into a male dominated space and expect everyone to be generous and nice. These guys are fucking assholes to everyone. She had a problem with one guy and then started generalizing all the men here as ignorant. Starts trying to passive aggressively belittle them by saying "boys" and virtue signaling about "mansplaining..."

Say something funny, helpful, or relatable. Otherwise nobody wants to hear all that whining and shit. If a guy was doing that he'd have 20 pages of getting grilled and end up being banned.

 

[verylargeshoes]

So if it’s a “You and me” thing then I would think the sources should have pressure on them to test more. Makes zero sense to me how one tested over 20 mg higher and people aren’t more annoyed at that. And I can trust someone all day and that’s why people get lazy. Case in point: Devon had test c
with E in it. It’s not a major deal but if your thinking your using masteron and it’s test it’s a big deal. Now I will give Devon credit it’s real. Their 10mgs are def legit. My only complaint is the min order. Was 100 then 150 now 200. Keeps changing.

Yeah, the min order arms race priced me out of some sources. Several are at $400, I think. But it’s a seller’s market right now. Also, I’ve finally figured out that it really is a good strategy to buy a few cycles’ worth from one place, have some samples of it tested, and then stick with that supply with as much confidence as you can have.

Better yet, as @Rakusa said, get some raws, test, and homebrew if you’ve got the time and space and resources. And then you can pick your own filler Not so easy to get raws these days, though.

Go look at the Primal Pharma thread if you want to see an example of some good pressure going on recently. Not everybody on Meso thinks it’s a good thing, surprisingly. Some of the more stridently harm-reductiony members of the community have put in a lot of work pressuring vendors to test their raws and share results before brewing. I believe Arail and Neo are doing that testing now, probably others I don’t follow. Arail just scrapped / delayed a planned product due to low purity raws.

But if customers are desperate or complacent or lured in by low prices and don’t vote with their wallets, then poor quality sources using poor quality processes are going to remain. I don’t know of any mechanism to kick them off Meso just for being shitty sources.