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Seriously good response man. I get those levels on 225mg. Friend of mine get's double the test levels that I get on the same gear but in terms of growth and strength progress he is not ahead of me. I think receptor sensitivity and metabolism play a role here. Trying to say more doesn't always equal better. At least that's what I think. I can't prove it.
Yea. I was actually shooting for true TRT so I’ll lower it more once this new cycle ends. My goal was around 1,000.
 
Test c/e raws can be found for about $850/kg which yes is a crazy price.

But even giving the super benefit of the doubt to some of these price raises - let’s say brewing 300mg/ml and they paid $1000 for a kg. That’s only $3-3.50 per vial of test for raws. So someone who has raised their prices per vial of test $10-20 dollars is just taking advantage of you and the market. And these morons here are stanning/white knighting for the vendors.
 
Test c/e raws can be found for about $850/kg which yes is a crazy price.

But even giving the super benefit of the doubt to some of these price raises - let’s say brewing 300mg/ml and they paid $1000 for a kg. That’s only $3-3.50 per vial of test for raws. So someone who has raised their prices per vial of test $10-20 dollars is just taking advantage of you and the market. And these morons here are stanning/white knighting for the vendors.
Sorry wrong thread. I misposted.
 
Test c/e raws can be found for about $850/kg which yes is a crazy price.

But even giving the super benefit of the doubt to some of these price raises - let’s say brewing 300mg/ml and they paid $1000 for a kg. That’s only $3-3.50 per vial of test for raws. So someone who has raised their prices per vial of test $10-20 dollars is just taking advantage of you and the market. And these morons here are stanning/white knighting for the vendors.

Don't forget the risk of importing controlled substance powders through the mail.. Brewing it, sending it out anonymously to people. Loss of product, replacement, errors, etc.

There is alot of time involved for a good brewer.

You can always brew yourself to control costs. I know I did.
 
Don't forget the risk of importing controlled substance powders through the mail.. Brewing it, sending it out anonymously to people. Loss of product, replacement, errors, etc.

There is alot of time involved for a good brewer.

You can always brew yourself to control costs. I know I did.
This was supposed to go in a thread about price increases. I agree on all that but the cost of those haven’t changed substantially due to the “raws shortage”
 
This was supposed to go in a thread about price increases. I agree on all that but the cost of those haven’t changed substantially due to the “raws shortage”
are you suggesting there isnt a shortage?

They are increasing the price for anticipated raw cost increase. Supply vs demand as well.


Some of us that ordered raws also got scammed.

I got fake Mast
Senwayer sent 2 kilos to a post office 2 hours away, didnt put the label on it properly and asked for me to go try to collect it. refused to refund me.

importation risks are increasing
vial cost is increasing
inflation

so I disagree with saying costs haven't changed.
 
are you suggesting there isnt a shortage?

They are increasing the price for anticipated raw cost increase. Supply vs demand as well.


Some of us that ordered raws also got scammed.

I got fake Mast
Senwayer sent 2 kilos to a post office 2 hours away, didnt put the label on it properly and asked for me to go try to collect it. refused to refund me.

importation risks are increasing
vial cost is increasing
inflation

so I disagree with saying costs haven't changed.
Yeah, I've lost many of tens of thousands of dollars in the past few months. Not to mention, it's not just raws that have doubled. The cost of everything has gone up tremendously since covid. From my perspective, my prices may have gone up, but my profits have gone down.
 
Yeah, I've lost many of tens of thousands of dollars in the past few months. Not to mention, it's not just raws that have doubled. The cost of everything has gone up tremendously since covid. From my perspective, my prices may have gone up, but my profits have gone down.
I don't think many understand that EVERYTHING is becoming more expensive, it would be easy to say everything has increased by at least 10% and in many cases much much more (raws are insane from what I've seen lately and it seems the purity is maybe 90ish?)
 
I don't think many understand that EVERYTHING is becoming more expensive, it would be easy to say everything has increased by at least 10% and in many cases much much more (raws are insane from what I've seen lately and it seems the purity is maybe 90ish?)
Seriously. Have you walked in a store or purchased anything in the past 4 years? Vials. Tops. Labels. Filters. Equipment. Replacement equipment. Testing. Shipping. More more more. These are the same people that think milk comes from the bodega on the corner.
 
Test c/e raws can be found for about $850/kg which yes is a crazy price.

But even giving the super benefit of the doubt to some of these price raises - let’s say brewing 300mg/ml and they paid $1000 for a kg. That’s only $3-3.50 per vial of test for raws. So someone who has raised their prices per vial of test $10-20 dollars is just taking advantage of you and the market. And these morons here are stanning/white knighting for the vendors.
What ur saying is… they should sell vials for $10 since they pay $3.50…. The math you guys make is funny… legalities aside… why would they be risking their freedom everyday to comfort you … to save you money… when you factor in 1kg… testing plus 2x ship… raws then finished…. That’s at least $360 there… ur looking at minimum $5.5 or so a vial… that’s without factoring filters… solvents… cost of shipping supplies… paying receivers… cost of electricity… cost of space where they brew…. Shippers… see how quickly it adds up???? Forgot to factor in seized packages…
 
What ur saying is… they should sell vials for $10 since they pay $3.50…. The math you guys make is funny… legalities aside… why would they be risking their freedom everyday to comfort you … to save you money… when you factor in 1kg… testing plus 2x ship… raws then finished…. That’s at least $360 there… ur looking at minimum $5.5 or so a vial… that’s without factoring filters… solvents… cost of shipping supplies… paying receivers… cost of electricity… cost of space where they brew…. Shippers… see how quickly it adds up????
listen but jeans should only cost $20 still!
 
Yeah, I've lost many of tens of thousands of dollars in the past few months. Not to mention, it's not just raws that have doubled. The cost of everything has gone up tremendously since covid. From my perspective, my prices may have gone up, but my profits have gone down.
Raise your prices more.

People can pay for quality and a vendor who cares.
 
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What ur saying is… they should sell vials for $10 since they pay $3.50…. The math you guys make is funny… legalities aside… why would they be risking their freedom everyday to comfort you … to save you money… when you factor in 1kg… testing plus 2x ship… raws then finished…. That’s at least $360 there… ur looking at minimum $5.5 or so a vial… that’s without factoring filters… solvents… cost of shipping supplies… paying receivers… cost of electricity… cost of space where they brew…. Shippers… see how quickly it adds up???? Forgot to factor in seized packages…
No I’m not you moron. I saying the difference in raws does not justify some of the price increases. Get some 3rd grade reading comprehension.
 
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