China begins chemical seller crackdown

[anubisascended73]

I too buy all peps now from chinese US warehouses. However its is getting harder to get oios and raws out of that country. And arrests continue there for labs and reaellers. You can still obtain but it is harder and many have stopped for the time bieng.

 

[Ghoul]

I like how this fear mongering thread is still moving forward. Meanwhile GLP drugs are still being sold here in the US. The process are now less than when the thread was created

Short sighted morons like you said the same thing before the obviously impending crackdown that made prices rise and getting packs through more difficult.

Taking steps in advance was cheap insurance, and no one regretted being prepared. There was no downside.

We're still at the beginning of CBP's reforms and stricter enforcement, and it will only get tighter from here.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Short sighted morons like you said the same thing before the obviously impending crackdown that made prices rise and getting packs through more difficult.

Taking steps in advance was cheap insurance, and no one regretted being prepared. There was no downside.

We're still at the beginning of CBP's reforms and stricter enforcement, and it will only get tighter from here.

What does CBP have to do with China doing crackdowns? Lol


More evidence of these dumb predictions.


Yes China did crackdown on AAS but not general chemicals.


I had T/D on sub 2 weeks these past few weeks

 

[Ghoul]

What does CBP have to do with China doing crackdowns? Lol


More evidence of these dumb predictions.


Yes China did crackdown on AAS but not general chemicals.



I had T/D on sub 2 weeks these past few weeks

It's really not unsurprising you can't connect the dots.

The threat to eliminate de minimus shipments, the billion+ packs a year that enter the US without inspection or tariffs, was largely justified by the contraband being slipped in with the flood of legitimate goods.

Any illegal goods found added fuel to that fire, puts China in a worse negotiating position, and hundreds of billions in legitimate trade via de minimus would be put at risk. So China decided to close the tap on their end, for now.

Regardless, customs has clearly tightened. The vendors stopping oil shipments weren't doing that for no reason.

They've barely begun implementing new controls on packs, de minimus reform legislation is still pending, the hundreds of millions allocated to increase customs inspections haven't even begin to flow, but it will.

Only an idiot claims things are the same as they were a year ago and says everything will return to the way they were. Being prepared by keeping a buffer supply on hand isn't "fear mongering", it's acknowledging the obvious risks of higher prices and lower availability in the future.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Whatever you say clown.


AAS raws are under production again and stuff is starting back up.

You can even admit you are wrong or even the situation changed

 

[Luka.Halotestin]

What do you guys think about prices? Will they come back down?

I guess everyone is grabbing for raws now and there is less production because a lot of manufacturers got busted so the prices are going up. I hope they stabilize when supply goes higher and demand goes a bit lower.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

What do you guys think about prices? Will they come back down?

I guess everyone is grabbing for raws now and there is less production because a lot of manufacturers got busted so the prices are going up. I hope they stabilize when supply goes higher and demand goes a bit lower.

Not for a while.

The US CBP has nothing to do with the halting of shipments to the other countries or affecting the manufacturers.

That being said. The AAS manufacturers are hiding/busted. They are slowly coming out of the woodwork.

Prices are going back to where they should be for oils, tablets, and capsules.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

It will be hard for guys who rely on these drugs for so long. AAS users will adapt quicker than the newer users of gh secretagogues, glps and other peptides.

There are also individuals who have the ability to procure items the way they did before. Others will just stop cold turkey like some of us when life got in the way of bodybuilding.

No matter, India is just waiting for the opportunity to step in I think.

The idea of Indian raws reminds me of the videos of ambiguous yellow and orange fluid in pots being slopped around into bags by street vendors.

All the oils will be the color of tren lol

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Yep stacking up what we can with my friend. Splitting costs and stocking all our essential with raws being the focus. So far we found our mast raws. Steep cost for the price but plays out for a few years of use. I'll be honest I think I'm over reacting now. I've spent more than I intended just to be safe but maybe it will be worth it. Heck if raw supplies dries up. Maybe I can help people with some decent supply one day. Got way too much tren now. Doubt I'll ever use it all. Trt raws is god send though. Never can have too much of that

 

[AlexDavis43]

For what it's worth: on a recent video discussing the China crackdown, Dave Crossland mentioned an Indian manufacturer of raws.

I don't expect an answer but I messaged him asking not for the source, but just confirmation that there was indeed an Indian manufacturer of raws.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

For what it's worth: on a recent video discussing the China crackdown, Dave Crossland mentioned an Indian manufacturer of raws.

I don't expect an answer but I messaged him asking not for the source, but just confirmation that there was indeed an Indian manufacturer of raws.

Sure. Hope that's true

 

[bighunanballs]

Not for a while.

The US CBP has nothing to do with the halting of shipments to the other countries or affecting the manufacturers.

That being said. The AAS manufacturers are hiding/busted. They are slowly coming out of the woodwork.

Prices are going back to where they should be for oils, tablets, and capsules.

got them mast e raws

 

[clearheaded]

What does CBP have to do with China doing crackdowns? Lol


More evidence of these dumb predictions.


Yes China did crackdown on AAS but not general chemicals.


I had T/D on sub 2 weeks these past few weeks

uh? china cracked down not because they hated the money from selling drugs, rather political pressure. this same political pressure will tighten borders and CBP to keep u safe from fentanyl and hidden rapping immigrants... this is ESP true as the current admins theory is its better to buy everything in the states so they will have 0 issues holding up mail/shipments to make its difficult to order from temu.

 

[Bulldog77]

With tons of small packages constantly shipping from China, it's gonna be super tough to stop all the fentanyl, not to mention steroids, from coming in. I think once Chinese manufacturers feel like the heat's off, things will probably go right back to how they were before, or pretty close to it...

 

[clearheaded]

hot take, trade wars make things NOT go back to status quo.

 

[clearheaded]

everyone importing anything from china BELOW 800 USD will be subject to tariffs.. which means ALOT more scrutiny at the border my dudes! they want to stop alibaba and temu etc.

that easy travel and cheap imports USA once enjoyed are over!

gotta love when they stick it to middle class ordering cheap goods for family use!! but for y'all in the states getting pharma from china it means alot more seizures at the border.

don't forget you were warned prior to election about this!

god speed!

 

[narta]

It's really not unsurprising you can't connect the dots.

The threat to eliminate de minimus shipments, the billion+ packs a year that enter the US without inspection or tariffs, was largely justified by the contraband being slipped in with the flood of legitimate goods.

Any illegal goods found added fuel to that fire, puts China in a worse negotiating position, and hundreds of billions in legitimate trade via de minimus would be put at risk. So China decided to close the tap on their end, for now.

Regardless, customs has clearly tightened. The vendors stopping oil shipments weren't doing that for no reason.

They've barely begun implementing new controls on packs, de minimus reform legislation is still pending, the hundreds of millions allocated to increase customs inspections haven't even begin to flow, but it will.

Only an idiot claims things are the same as they were a year ago and says everything will return to the way they were. Being prepared by keeping a buffer supply on hand isn't "fear mongering", it's acknowledging the obvious risks of higher prices and lower availability in the future.

China law enforcement crackdown on raws had nothing to do with shipping outside of the Great Wall. It's LEGAL to sell and ship aas raws to the rest of the world. It's ILLEGAL to sell inside Mainland. And the combination of one greedy salesman of the largest supply factory of the market and a ambitious local law enforcement chief made the crackdown and constant raids possible.

The de minimus shenanigans only affects US buyers. The crackdown affects the global aas raw market.

You are truly an Elite Retard

 

[ve79]

China law enforcement crackdown on raws had nothing to do with shipping outside of the Great Wall. It's LEGAL to sell and ship aas raws to the rest of the world. It's ILLEGAL to sell inside Mainland. And the combination of one greedy salesman of the largest supply factory of the market and a ambitious local law enforcement chief made the crackdown and constant raids possible.

The de minimus shenanigans only affects US buyers. The crackdown affects the global aas raw market.

You are truly an Elite Retard

I'm not understanding. Your saying it's legal for them to sell it but it will still effect people like myself to purchase them from sources ?

 

[narta]

I'm not understanding. Your saying it's legal for them to sell it but it will still effect people like myself to purchase them from sources ?

It's legal for them to export. The current crackdown started when a salesperson sold raws INSIDE the China Mainland. The factory that supplied nearly 70% of the ugl/homebrewers/illegal market got shutdown disrupting production that could not be picked up adequately from the remaining producers.

Add to that the idiotic/greedy practice of some vendors to sell illicit substances like fent in the darkweb or even clearweb and you have a perfect storm for shortages

 

[pipo]

It's legal for them to export. The current crackdown started when a salesperson sold raws INSIDE the China Mainland. The factory that supplied nearly 70% of the ugl/homebrewers/illegal market got shutdown disrupting production that could not be picked up adequately from the remaining producers.

Add to that the idiotic/greedy practice of some vendors to sell illicit substances like fent in the darkweb or even clearweb and you have a perfect storm for shortages

Not the case or not anymore. Look what Tracy said. AAS raws are illegal to make and sell. If a substance is illegal in China is illegal to export as well.
If you have time to read I post some screenshots