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I try to minimize injections nowadays... if it can be swallowed why the fuck not.. The liver is pretty resilient..
I don't mind the liber toxicity for me it's mostly lipids and gut health. Orals destroy my stomach and then I can't eat properly and absorb nutrients well.

That's why I stopped using orals
 
it would be nice if we could all band together to pressure @SigmaAudley China Peptide to pressure their manufacturing facility to brew their DHB, Superdrol and Anadrol without Guaiacol and Ethyl oleate. it can be done in miglyol or higher % Benzyl Benzoate at a little lower dosages and will not blast our CRP markers.

Also curious if there are better alternatives
PG, PEG400, Propanediol 1,3 etc
 
I don't mind the liber toxicity for me it's mostly lipids and gut health. Orals destroy my stomach and then I can't eat properly and absorb nutrients well.

That's why I stopped using orals
I’m finding that even orals in suspension can cause stomach issues. So far not enough to stop using them, but I definitely get heart burn and gastrointestinal issues sometimes.
 
Fixing the stomach issue on orals is pretty simple...just cap them in a delayed/enteric acid capsule, which allows them to bypass the stomach. Absorption rate in the stomach is pretty low anyways. This however means you need to take it earlier if taking PWO.

-100pc capsule machine should cost you below 30USD (Maybe 1/2 that if buying from China)
-Empty capsules are like a cent each or less. Just get a capsule whose size is bigger than the cap/tablet you're taking.
 
Fixing the stomach issue on orals is pretty simple...just cap them in a delayed/enteric acid capsule, which allows them to bypass the stomach. Absorption rate in the stomach is pretty low anyways. This however means you need to take it earlier if taking PWO.

-100pc capsule machine should cost you below 30USD (Maybe 1/2 that if buying from China)
-Empty capsules are like a cent each or less. Just get a capsule whose size is bigger than the cap/tablet you're taking.
Never found delayed enteric acid capsules... Gotta search better I guess..I only found simple vegetables gelatin capsules
 
Correct. They have looked at this and it is the 17aa itself that causes the liver stress. Not the fact that it is taken orally in of itself.
As far as I've been able to research online they are less liver toxic not because 17aa doesn't pass through the liver, it's simply the fact that it is injected in a Depot which cleaves slowly versus oral administration which slams your liver in a very short period of time. Aren't lipid soluble, so when they are injected they are not dispersed in metabolized immediately. It should also be known that when injected and it enters the bloodstream you bypass that first pass via oral administration so you'll have a higher concentration of the uncleaved unmetabolized hormone in your bloodstream that can then be metabolized in other parts of the body ie muscle cells and what not. I don't know if it's quantifiable or any numbers here. But it's possible you may have a slightly greater number of metabolism happening outside of the liver when injecting.

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Yeah I heard it was nasty stuff…worse than superdrol. Like I said, they have both…so I’m just wondering what the difference is and if the DHB is actually bioavailable without the methyl group making it M1T.
1-test cyp will have some oral bioavailability, but it won't be worth the cost. I've been burned by Chinese sources before cocking up the naming on compounds and it being methyl-test or test-cyp. get them to double check the CAS number to see exactly what it is.
 
Ya I'm not so sure. I'm curious where this is getting stated from. It's my understanding the drug can be metabolised in other areas of the body before hitting the liver if it's injected. This being less liver toxic.

Not too bright on this subject though. I would definitely be interested in seeing some kind of literature on the subject matter. Maybe @Type-IIx has an idea

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Directly injected into the bloodstream? It's injected IM or subq. Maybe AI is confused or just wording it poorly.

I'm pretty sure I've seen bloodwork (or at least a report from someone who did bloodwork) on an injectable oral...I think it was SD. And their liver values still went to shit quickly and still had the usual lethargy.
 
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Directly injected into the bloodstream? It's injected IM or subq. Maybe AI is confused or just wording it poorly.

I'm pretty sure I've seen bloodwork (or at least a report from someone who did bloodwork) on an injectable oral...I think it was SD. And their liver values still went to shit quickly and still had the usual lethargy.
Found a couple reports:


View: https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/16cf8q0/compound_experience_thread_superdrol/jzkc9my/



View: https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/16cf8q0/compound_experience_thread_superdrol/jzjexn8/
 
Directly injected into the bloodstream? It's injected IM or subq. Maybe AI is confused or just wording it poorly.

I'm pretty sure I've seen bloodwork (or at least a report from someone who did bloodwork) on an injectable oral...I think it was SD. And their liver values still went to shit quickly and still had the usual lethargy.
I don't know what it is with SD. I have taken ever steroid under the sun. It was the only one ever that actually made me feel very lethargic. I went and looked and found out this was an extremely common side effect specifically related to SD.
 
I was thinking about trying this GLOW50 product so I can look young and handsome forever. Can someone help me out with how to dose this stuff? TY
 
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1-test cyp will have some oral bioavailability, but it won't be worth the cost. I've been burned by Chinese sources before cocking up the naming on compounds and it being methyl-test or test-cyp. get them to double check the CAS number to see exactly what it is.
Thanks for this. I figured it was the case as I’ve seen similar from them before. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
 
As far as I've been able to research online they are less liver toxic not because 17aa doesn't pass through the liver, it's simply the fact that it is injected in a Depot which cleaves slowly versus oral administration which slams your liver in a very short period of time. Aren't lipid soluble, so when they are injected they are not dispersed in metabolized immediately. It should also be known that when injected and it enters the bloodstream you bypass that first pass via oral administration so you'll have a higher concentration of the uncleaved unmetabolized hormone in your bloodstream that can then be metabolized in other parts of the body ie muscle cells and what not. I don't know if it's quantifiable or any numbers here. But it's possible you may have a slightly greater number of metabolism happening outside of the liver when injecting.

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This is of course purely anecdotal but I have heard something similar with orals. Some members reported their liver function tests looked better when taking their orals twice a day compared to one large dose once a day. At least I think that’s what your ChatGPT info is saying. Lol
 
I was thinking about trying this GLOW50 product so I can look young and handsome forever. Can someone help me out with how to dose this stuff? TY
If I’m not mistaken, with GLOW50 it can be tricky to dial in the right dose for each compound since they’re all mixed together. That’s why most people prefer to run BPC, TB, and GHK-Cu separately. Dosing varies, but a common starting point is BPC 1mg, TB500 1mg, and GHK-Cu 2mg daily. You can mix them in one syringe or use an insulin pen if that’s your style.

Heads up - GHK-Cu can sometimes sting or cause redness if you go subq. IM tends to avoid that. Personally, I’m just sticking to BPC + TB for now - trying to patch up my knee and lower back before I go full cyborg.
 
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