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Ghoul said:
Feel bad for our Canadian brothers and sisters. It's not like they enjoy the illegal immigration and free flow of killer drugs any more than we do. It's the govt that foisted that on them, not something the people invited.

More illegals came over the Northern border from Canada in 2023 than in the 13 preceding years (as measured by "got aways" and "released on parole into the US"). The smugglers advertised their services openly in Canada. The tiny percentage of arrests made involved people from 80 countries. A well worn route from the airport to empty stretches of borderlands of Northern NY, Vermont, and New Hampshire. Going up to visit you could see it everywhere. Local papers talking about tiny school budgets collapsing under the weight of sudden large numbers non-english speaking student "new arrivals", housing shortages made far worse, unlicensed, uninsured hit and run drivers becoming a routine occurrence. Shootouts between gang members in bucolic towns with 0% violent crime for decades. And ofc massive amounts of synthetic opioids throwing gasoline on a pre-existing addiction scourge, with OD deaths of young people so routine hardly worth a mention in the papers.

Then just as fast as the tap was opened, it stopped, demonstrating just how intentional it was.
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I think the Canadian government want the carnage. Its the only logical explanation.
 
Ghoul said:
Feel bad for our Canadian brothers and sisters. It's not like they enjoy the illegal immigration and free flow of killer drugs any more than we do. It's the govt that foisted that on them, not something the people invited.

More illegals came over the Northern border from Canada in 2023 than in the 13 preceding years (as measured by "got aways" and "released on parole into the US"). The smugglers advertised their services openly in Canada. The tiny percentage of arrests made involved people from 80 countries. A well worn route from the airport to empty stretches of borderlands of Northern NY, Vermont, and New Hampshire. Going up to visit you could see it everywhere. Local papers talking about tiny school budgets collapsing under the weight of sudden large numbers non-english speaking student "new arrivals", housing shortages made far worse, unlicensed, uninsured hit and run drivers becoming a routine occurrence. Shootouts between gang members in bucolic towns with 0% violent crime for decades. And ofc massive amounts of synthetic opioids throwing gasoline on a pre-existing addiction scourge, with OD deaths of young people so routine hardly worth a mention in the papers.

Then just as fast as the tap was opened, it stopped, demonstrating just how intentional it was.
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I grew up on the border in northern ny and instead of seeing police patrol the streets it was all border patrol. You were routinely stopped by b.p for any and everything but mainly suspicion of drugs. I remember one time my dad parked the boat dead center in the middle of the river and dared us to swim to canada while he sat and drank on the boat. Eventually he had to come pick us up not even 20 minutes into it. A 5 minute drive by car equals around a 9 hour swim.
 
Clover 0080 said:
Eventually he had to come pick us up not even 20 minutes into it. A 5 minute drive by car equals around a 9 hour swim.
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I was convinced I could swim a mile as a workout when I was a teenager. I got maybe 25 yards in before giving up. It took me 5 minutes to go that 25 yards because I kept sinking. To this day, I can’t float or tread water and I swim every week with a swim coach. If I stop swimming, I sink a few feet below the surface, and as air leaves my lungs, I go straight to the bottom. So I am in awe of anybody who can swim across the border, especially if they’re going against the current. That shit is HARD.
 
mok4315 said:
I was convinced I could swim a mile as a workout when I was a teenager. I got maybe 25 yards in before giving up. It took me 5 minutes to go that 25 yards because I kept sinking. To this day, I can’t float or tread water and I swim every week with a swim coach. If I stop swimming, I sink a few feet below the surface, and as air leaves my lungs, I go straight to the bottom. So I am in awe of anybody who can swim across the border, especially if they’re going against the current. That shit is HARD.
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My Granny was so fat her arms were like flotation devices. She could float in a pool for hours without moving. Lol
 
mok4315 said:
I was convinced I could swim a mile as a workout when I was a teenager. I got maybe 25 yards in before giving up. It took me 5 minutes to go that 25 yards because I kept sinking. To this day, I can’t float or tread water and I swim every week with a swim coach. If I stop swimming, I sink a few feet below the surface, and as air leaves my lungs, I go straight to the bottom. So I am in awe of anybody who can swim across the border, especially if they’re going against the current. That shit is HARD.
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Theres a movie that was based near where i grew up called "Frozen river" This woman smugled illegals over the river into the mohawk reservation. Alot died along the way carrying kids and infants.

I cant really swim and probably sink myself lol I think the worst part about my drunken dad childhood memory was that I'm terrified of deep water. Sharks and big fish and whatever else down there No thank you
 
mok4315 said:
I was convinced I could swim a mile as a workout when I was a teenager. I got maybe 25 yards in before giving up. It took me 5 minutes to go that 25 yards because I kept sinking. To this day, I can’t float or tread water and I swim every week with a swim coach. If I stop swimming, I sink a few feet below the surface, and as air leaves my lungs, I go straight to the bottom. So I am in awe of anybody who can swim across the border, especially if they’re going against the current. That shit is HARD.
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There should be some position where you can tread water, some people have to do it face down and grab air as their body kind of bobs up and down, but yeah some people are sinkers, I think it’s genetic. Most people are floaters and will stay above water.
 
glpfun said:
There should be some position where you can tread water, some people have to do it face down and grab air as their body kind of bobs up and down, but yeah some people are sinkers, I think it’s genetic. Most people are floaters and will stay above water.
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People definitely have different density. In competition, I am always trying to figure out who my opponent is while I am waiting in the bullpen. I am actually not good at that at all.

I also made this kid step on the scale after class one time. He was short and fat but felt like a brick. Said he was like 205. I was probably 220-225. Sure enough 205. I still don’t understand it.

Now I know little guys can make themselves feel heavy with good technique but this guy sucked at jujutsu.
 
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glpfun said:
There should be some position where you can tread water, some people have to do it face down and grab air as their body kind of bobs up and down, but yeah some people are sinkers, I think it’s genetic. Most people are floaters and will stay above water.
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Face down is definitely easier, and I can maintain it for maybe 2 minutes. But it has to be in perfect conditions, so if a lap swimmer gets into the pool and starts making waves, it’s all over lol. So far my only hope is swimming in circles, but that is also basically controlled drowning where I’m constantly fighting to stay buoyant. I have a lot of friends who are swim coaches, and they are stumped, but at least I can swim several hundred yards now without stopping. Progress!
 
Ghoul said:
A well worn route from the airport to empty stretches of borderlands of Northern NY, Vermont, and New Hampshire. Going up to visit you could see it everywhere.
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Was going to tell a very funny (and recent) story regarding this but started to feel like it was a bit too specific.

Long story short, that Northern border is hilariously porous. I had an unexpected need to get from our upstairs neighbors back to the states in a hurry and not at the timeline the consulate would allow, was astonished by how simple it was.
 
Sicsemptyran said:
Was going to tell a very funny (and recent) story regarding this but started to feel like it was a bit too specific.

Long story short, that Northern border is hilariously porous. I had an unexpected need to get from our upstairs neighbors back to the states in a hurry and not at the timeline the consulate would allow, was astonished by how simple it was.
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unless you smell like weed and then they rip you out of your car and bend you over in front of the rest of the bridge traffic. Guns and illegals are okay. Marijuana is where they draw the line
 
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