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Of course! I was referring to the speed of it. Acromegaly doesn't happen that fast, but it has happened. Water retention is the major immediate contributor to foot size in the short term and acromegaly in the long term.
I would think it would develop slowly if you’re taking what we can call normal doses for adults. You do realize you’re taking more than pubertal children who need to achieve a certain height, right? Again, never seen someone taking that much.
 
I’m the name of not spreading misinformation, just wanted to come back to report that I did start getting side effects from qsc’s gh. The first couple weeks didn’t feel shit and it was my first time running gh so I was worried it might have been fake. But at this point I’m a month in doing around 4IU a day and my left hand is numb on and off all day. So I’m glad that at least the quality is on point
 
Hello everyone,

I’d like to provide an update. Approximately 70% of our issues have been resolved, but we still have around 30% left to sort out before we can resume Op. The situation has been far more complicated to resolve than anticipated, and it’s taking much longer than expected. Unfortunately, I can’t provide an exact timeline for when we’ll be back, but I can assure you that we will return soon, despite the significant losses, mental stress, and all the dog shit we've been dealing with during this period. Contrary to what some might imagining us sipping piña coladas on Caribbean black titties, this has been an incredibly difficult ordeal. I sincerely hope no one else has to go through what we’ve endured and are still working to resolve.

The AAS and peptides biz is now heavily regulated and highly risky. Despite all the OPSEC we implemented, our operations were impacted during the crackdown, given the scale of our trading company, we ended up in the same range as production factories. At the end of the day, we’re not operating in the shadows, we’re a legally registered company with offices and warehouses.... so not out of the reach.

Once we’re back, we will make things right for every pending order and every reshipment that’s needed. I’ve always been a man/women of my word, and while financial gain hasn’t been my primary motivation, 2024 has turned into a non-profit year due to these events—despite the hard work we’ve put in throughout the year.

For OPSEC reasons, I can't log in except on very few occasional basis, so sorry about that, but I can't answer any comment after my post until we're back.
Sounds to me like your dipping your toes into the pool to see if it’s warm enough to jump back in.

Now here’s what I came here to post.

WHERE’S MY FUCKING MONEY?!?!

You took mine and everyone else’s money that placed orders on this forum knowing full well that there were problems. You’re not even in China. You have my money. BTC has risen through the roof since I placed my order. Your wallets haven’t been emptied. You have out fucking money. Now refund your customers that you so much care about and wish to do business with. Otherwise go and kill yourself. You talk to people like trash openly and then come here and want sympathy from people here that 2024 wasn’t profitable. Go cry me a fucking river. You took peoples money and give some sorry ass story that you can’t log in and you’re not having a good time with our money. That’s some bullshit if you ask me. And any jerkoff that does business with you in the future would be even dumber.

No shut the fuck up and come here when you have everyone’s money. Otherwise go fuck yourself.
 
I would think it would develop slowly if you’re taking what we can call normal doses for adults. You do realize you’re taking more than pubertal children who need to achieve a certain height, right? Again, never seen someone taking that much.
This HGH blast started on the 7th, and the foot issue became pronounced on the 28th of the same month (I'm not saying it's peaked at this point, but this is the day I wrote it down in my log). You're telling me you think acromegaly has such an effect from exogenous HGH in such a timeframe? Water retention is contributing more in the short term.

Another sign is the very visible edema in the foot unless you don't think that's contributing (it is).
 
133 counts as a few. Would you like me to help you use a dictionary and look up "few" and other three letter words?
A few is generally considered to mean between two and several. Some people use a few to mean around three, but this is not a universal interpretation. Its meaning is highly relative to the context—it often depends on what’s being discussed, especially the scale and expectations.

actually a few means more than 2 but a small amount. So this would imply 3 because 4 is absolutely laughable.

2 standard deviations would mean he would be smarter than 95.4% of everyone and 3 would be 99.7%. 2 SD is exactly a 130 IQ and 3 SD is exactly 145.

Looks like you need help with definitions, how to round whole numbers, and statistics. Either way my spidey sense is telling me the 133 number is off.
 
So, it turns out you guys do need help navigating a dictionary and learning the meanings of common three letter words.

Here's Merriam-Webster for the Americans and the Oxford English Dictionary for the Brits.

According to both of them, you're wrong.

Would you like help multiplying 15 by 2 and adding it to 100?

Hint: 133>130.

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Sounds to me like your dipping your toes into the pool to see if it’s warm enough to jump back in.

Now here’s what I came here to post.

WHERE’S MY FUCKING MONEY?!?!

You took mine and everyone else’s money that placed orders on this forum knowing full well that there were problems. You’re not even in China. You have my money. BTC has risen through the roof since I placed my order. Your wallets haven’t been emptied. You have out fucking money. Now refund your customers that you so much care about and wish to do business with. Otherwise go and kill yourself. You talk to people like trash openly and then come here and want sympathy from people here that 2024 wasn’t profitable. Go cry me a fucking river. You took peoples money and give some sorry ass story that you can’t log in and you’re not having a good time with our money. That’s some bullshit if you ask me. And any jerkoff that does business with you in the future would be even dumber.

No shut the fuck up and come here when you have everyone’s money. Otherwise go fuck yourself.
This ain’t Amazon bro, it’s hard to forget what we’re doing is illegal, and one day you will take a loss, not every package is gonna come thru, is this the one? I hope not cause I got money out there too but if it does come to it, fuck it, I knew what I signed up for
 
I’m the name of not spreading misinformation, just wanted to come back to report that I did start getting side effects from qsc’s gh. The first couple weeks didn’t feel shit and it was my first time running gh so I was worried it might have been fake. But at this point I’m a month in doing around 4IU a day and my left hand is numb on and off all day. So I’m glad that at least the quality is on point
QSC gh that I had a Stock off.....was best GH i had....
 
A few is generally considered to mean between two and several. Some people use a few to mean around three, but this is not a universal interpretation.
actually a few means more than 2 but a small amount. So this would imply 3

The definition you found (from who knows where) also contradicts you.

Lay off the AAS; too much neurotoxicity.

Either way my spidey sense is telling me the 133 number is off.

We can gladly put money in a third-party escrow service where I can submit my IQ results (WAIS-III taken at a very reputable centre) to verify my claims. I'd appreciate the free money.

I'm not surprised your "spidey sense" is faulty, given you don't know what "few" means and don't know how to use a dictionary or read a definition.

No hard feelings, though. Just reciprocating.
 
Anyone have thoughts on Tesamorelin/Ipamorelin?

Not trying to start GH as I don't want to shut off my natural production, but definitely looking into using these peptides that cause the positive feedback.
 
Anyone have thoughts on Tesamorelin/Ipamorelin?

Not trying to start GH as I don't want to shut off my natural production, but definitely looking into using these peptides that cause the positive feedback.
Secretagogues boost endogenous productions so you will benefit from several GH isoforms, whilst synthetic HGH is just the 22 kDa isoform (as far as I'm aware). Not sure if there's any meaningful, practical difference, though.

Benefit not that crazy; equivalent to a few or more iu of HGH, from what I recall.
 
Anyone have thoughts on Tesamorelin/Ipamorelin?

Not trying to start GH as I don't want to shut off my natural production, but definitely looking into using these peptides that cause the positive feedback.

Don't mix them. It's a marathon, not a sprint for the most noticeable results, 6 months. Results most similar to low dose GH, for anti aging rather than bodybuilder results. Lower risks than GH and should be sustainable indefinately with very minor, if any sides. We know there are daily users of Egrifta 10 years+, under medical care, without anything troubling in the data.

Easier to manage as well because of its indirect effect and physiological levels, pretty much any time of day is fine, as long as it's consistant,

Tesa also seems to result in ongoing higher levels of GH after use is stopped, fwiw.

Given the already high rate of immunogenicity with the pharma Tesa, this, perhaps more than any other peptide should be filtered IMO.
 
Sounds to me like your dipping your toes into the pool to see if it’s warm enough to jump back in.

Now here’s what I came here to post.

WHERE’S MY FUCKING MONEY?!?!

You took mine and everyone else’s money that placed orders on this forum knowing full well that there were problems. You’re not even in China. You have my money. BTC has risen through the roof since I placed my order. Your wallets haven’t been emptied. You have out fucking money. Now refund your customers that you so much care about and wish to do business with. Otherwise go and kill yourself. You talk to people like trash openly and then come here and want sympathy from people here that 2024 wasn’t profitable. Go cry me a fucking river. You took peoples money and give some sorry ass story that you can’t log in and you’re not having a good time with our money. That’s some bullshit if you ask me. And any jerkoff that does business with you in the future would be even dumber.

No shut the fuck up and come here when you have everyone’s money. Otherwise go fuck yourself.
the fact that this was posted by someone called "CryAboutIt" is just delicious
 
This ain’t Amazon bro, it’s hard to forget what we’re doing is illegal, and one day you will take a loss, not every package is gonna come thru, is this the one? I hope not cause I got money out there too but if it does come to it, fuck it, I knew what I signed up for
Exactly. If anything, after a statent saying they'll make it right the best you can achieve by the "where is my fucking money" posts is them not wanting to make it right.

They are drugdealers, they aren't amazon and you did not place an amazon order. You knew damn well risks are present. Order at your own risk.

I've had to say goodbye to sums of cash hisTaxan ass would be more than furious about, and I'm from a balkan country with laughable economics.

You do shady things, you get shady results.
Life sucks sometimes, money comes and goes.
 
Thank you!

Here are my relatively low IGF-1 levels after using about 90iu/day of QSC HGH.

Somatomedin-C (IGF-1) ↑ 977.5 ng/mL 134.0 - 450.0 Serum

Will taking a break help enough if it's this bad, and how long before I can restart with the most effectiveness returned? I'm assuming this can only be figured out after testing.

I've also reduced my frequency, as indicated by the study I sent, before coming off for a little while.

Would you suggest I do RIA for anti-HGH antibody detection? Is ELISA fine? Functional IGF-1 Response Test? Neutralizing Antibody Test? Or is RIA pretty much the only quality go-to?

How long do anti-HGH antibodies persist? I'm assuming my natural production has probably tanked, too.

Would switching brands from QSC temporarily help, or would it have to be a permanent switch? Would it have to be a switch to a pharma brand, or something like SSA would work? Do we know anything about the differences in excipients and aggregation properties between QSC and SSA rHGH?

What about secretagogues for a while?

Do we know anything about the doses taken in this study? Could you please link the study?

Thanks again, Ghoul; so much value each time interacting with you!

As some clowns will tell you, I'm just a guy with google and secretly holding a major investment in filter manufacturers.

I asked ChatGPT (the one in my head) to sum up what it (me) would do if it (me) were in your shoes, and going down the path you've chosen.

Let me add you have an opportunity to also contribute to the community's body of knowledge in a significant way, as there's no "Office of Underground Lab Peptide Safety" pumping out the research a lot of knuckle draggers insist is required to recognize the risk of anything.

They look at pharma clinical trials and say "No immunogenicity problem there, so my UGL peptide is perfectly safe, idiot!"

That's the equivalent of saying Ford demonstrates a new car model can sustain a 40 MPH collision with 0% fatalities, so this $50 Temu GoKart is equally safe.

So in your shoes:

1: Get a baseline GH Antibody Test.

You can't self order it (too little demand), but if you go to a place like UltaLabTests and ask if they can arrange it for you, I think there's a good chance they'll add it to their "menu" of choices, and at a good discount below the standard ~$200.

2. Start filtering, per dose, just before administration. Aggregates take time to develop, the closer to administration the filtering the less time the trash UGL GH formula will have to recreate more aggregates.

This is the equivalent of changing brands. Given you haven't seen response go to zero, I strongly suspect as soon as the immune stimulating factors are reduced, aggregates and impurities. antibodies will drop, and efficacy will increase.

After a 1-3 months check Antibody levels again. If they're lower, you know you're moving in the right direction and should start lowering the dose to compensate for increased efficacy.

It's rare we see such a clear "loss of efficacy" situation, most of the time it's "feels" reports of members claiming bunk gear, that it worked in the past but this batch isn't working, yet tests show the GH is fine.

That's where the common denominator simian mind on Meso loses interest in trying to establish why (despite the fact this happens with pharma, which is why an anti- immunogenicity protocol and GH antibody tests exist). They take a break, or try another brand or switches to pharma, insists the new brand or pharma is the only way to go, never really digging into why HGH that tests good stopped being effective.

Finally, if you take my advice and get a GH antibody test, which I want to emphasize would be groundbreaking in the UGL community, request the lab provide whatever *raw data* is available. I can't find it at the moment, but I've read a report that said an adult GH non responder (in adults with GH deficiency they look at IGF and not growth like children), didn't show a positive result on the GH antibody test, but in the raw data there were antibodies of another type, not normally considered relevant, that were high. Once those were reduced (with a break and switching brands), HGH treatment efficacy was restored for that patient.

*here's the Quest link to the GH Antibody test with the codes you'll need to get someone to order it for you. I believe they're universal.

 
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Anyone have thoughts on Tesamorelin/Ipamorelin?

Not trying to start GH as I don't want to shut off my natural production, but definitely looking into using these peptides that cause the positive feedback.
Your natural production starts back up as soon as you stop using HGH, HGH is far superior than any GHRP hands down.

There's people combining CJC1295 + Ipamorelin + Tesamorelin to max out their natural production which is still less but more expensive than HGH.

But... you can spend your money however you like.
 
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