Readalots Enhanced Testing

Sounds to me like no utopia is meant to exist. Apparently I'm catching up on years of drama in one thread:

1.) QSC is apparently the big bad wolf that got away with murder (?)

2.) A bunch of guys I'm not aware of got banned(?) for speaking there minds (?)

3.) The guys who are mad about 1 + 2 apparently want the same fate to happen to Readalot because the son of a bitch won't shut up and fuck off already.

AlexDavis is correct about the "us against them" mentality...that was kinda the thing I was hoping to avoid since it seemed like we all agreed (or said we did) that more testing was a good thing. (I never claimed to think it had to be Readalot's system...and I don't think even he did).

Either way, this has all been illuminating.

I'll fuck off now...but I'm gonna keep my ball and complimentary key chain MESO mailed me when I signed up.

P.S. I'm a fucking hemorrhoid so I'll be as subtle as one and still around. You fucks really need to learn how to actually say the things you mean if you're not happy about something. Deuces.
When you’re elite you get a cool jean jacket.
 
you're just another fat guy who decided to take gear because of a mid life crisis.
do you even workout?
I don't take gear, I dont even workout.


But atleast I don't ask retarded questions like this and preach harm reduction.







How does one measure weight with their eyes? How do you even call people low IQ with a dumb question like that?
 
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I don't take gear, I dont even workout.


But atleast I don't ask retarded questions like this and preach harm reduction.







How does one measure weight with their eyes? How do you even call people low IQ with a dumb question like that?
wow i talked about steroids on a steroid forum!
youre a pussy dude

yeah i guess i cant post in the testing thread, guess thats one less person promoting testing!

all you do on this forum is talk shit to people, like a miserable little boy because i hurt your feelings when I called you out previously for using this forum just to feel better about yourself by intentionally misinterpreting and dramatizing peoples posts like a karen.

whyd you want to make this all about me again?
because I said people wanting cheap gear has nothing to do with testing?
Why would that trigger you? to dig up my old posts AGAIN

are you trying to look cool in front of the other users here? for your werid parasocial validation?

you just want to attack other people online like a werido because your life sucks. how old are you dude? grow up
 
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I don't take gear, I dont even workout.


But atleast I don't ask retarded questions like this and preach harm reduction.







How does one measure weight with their eyes? How do you even call people low IQ with a dumb question like that?
If you get a second can you help me eyeball these MENT raws? I don’t have a scale at the moment. With a compound like MENT I should be ok if I’m off by a few mg. That’s what the guys on Reddit told me.
 
Millard, please chill with the disappointment. As I’m sure you can read in my post and many others that the disappoint is wide spread. I guess let’s finally get into it and address some things. Meso has changed and that’s fine. Change is hard for us older members but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad but it’s been a drastic change.

To say you’ve always had sponsors may be true as far as a banner here and there but the “sponsor tag” and “sticky” section in the underground is recent. I will leave this somewhat vague and won’t get too deep because I know you must operate within legal means but I would imagine with the dynamics of how Meso is now that bank account looks pretty good nowadays compared to recent years.

I honestly may have been reaching when I said you banned around 20-30 guys in one swoop to make way for Meso to have sponsors. It’s still a mystery of why that mass banned happened so all one can do is speculate. Those guys jumped on a source who threaten to not only dox but send hot packs to members and I can see where things got out of hand, but in recent years the source would had been banned and not all the members. Yes, I know you gave warnings but again, for decades there wasn’t much a member could say that would get them banned as this was truly a uncensored board so I can see why they kept going as they thought, he doesn’t perma ban members for holding sources accountable. To everyone’s shock we were wrong. To add insult just recently I read where you said that Naps actually isn’t banned and that they just choose not to be here.

Those of us that remained and somehow weren’t in the Naps thread were left with the burden of trying to hold the line and vet these sources very short handed. Then came along QSC. The most shady source we have seen or will ever see. I could spend the rest of my day gathering links to where they have blankly admitted to scamming, making threats, doxing, etc and I still don’t know if a day would be long enough to gather it all, but yet they have 9 or an infinite amount of lives here. So guys like me adapted. You don’t see us vetting or doing much calling out any more. Now we even get called shills due to it when in reality we just have a what’s the point mindset. For example, I have exhausted myself in the QSC thread and seen them not only banned for stuff that gets a member perma banned but I’ve seen them banned 3x or more but yet they are still here, which means sources are untouchable. So why would one exhaust their energy towards vetting or holding sources accountable for their actions? Especially when it’s likely the member will be the one banned for harassing or spamming.

In summary, Meso now profits a lot off of vendors, there are sponsor tags for those that pay the piper and have their operation in a sticky section. Members around here drop like flies and are banned daily and sources seem untouchable. Members are fearful while vendors are not. This is new. It’s hard to keep beating that drum and stating this isn’t a source board when this is how it’s summarized. The power has been stripped from the members.

To add, the new role system you put in place some time back now was not supposed to reward those that only participate in the underground but yet go look in the QSC thread. It seems to reward shills and not acknowledge others as it should.
I do understand why many members are disappointed. I get the perception that there was bias influenced by financial considerations. This is unavoidable.

It's a reality that I accepted when deciding to operate under a sponsor-supported model over 25 years ago. There will always be doubts about the sincerity of my motivations.

MESO has worked hard to maintain editorial independence separating moderation decisions from advertiser influences. And unwavering in its support of free expression when it comes to members wishing to share their opinions, experiences, feedback, reviews, and criticism of sources in order to hold them accountable and positively influence harm minimization.

Yet the doubts were raised in the two specific situations that you mentioned - one involving Naps and most recently one involving QSC.

Naps and QSC engaged in behaviors that were widely and justifiably condemned. Many members sought permanent bans.

MESO opted for temporary bans allowing them to remain on the forum subject to ongoing scrutiny and accountability. This was understandably controversial in both cases.

In the first instance, MESO issued a temporary ban for Naps. The situation escalated when a small group of influential members were subsequently banned after they openly violated MESO rules and attempted to discredit the forum as an apparent way to protest the lack of a permanent ban.

This added fuel to the speculation that financial motivations influenced the decision. I understand why some people saw it that way.

At the time, and ever since then, I've clarified that those members weren’t banned for criticizing a source - they were banned for blatantly and repeatedly breaking MESO’s rules. In fact, before, during, and after the bans, I made an open call for other members to continue criticizing Naps without restriction.

Naps even demanded I stop the criticism, but I refused, reaffirming MESO’s commitment to community-driven accountability over financial interests. MESO lost their sponsorship as a result, and Naps voluntarily quit the forum.

(Naps was banned for three months, it’s true they were not permanently banned at the time. I could have claimed otherwise, but I believe in being transparent - small details and facts matter.)

In the second instance, QSC was also given temporary ban. Any suggestion that financial pressures from sponsors influenced the decisions to avoid a permanent ban is particularly preposterous in this case. QSC never supported MESO financially as a sponsor or any other way.

Any financial pressures - explicit or implicit - would have clearly supported a permanent ban over a temporary one since all MESO sponsors would have benefited from a QSC ban. Additionally, several influential members lobbied for QSC to be permanently banned.

Despite these pressures, MESO stayed true to the principles of harm reduction forum I've outlined - to keep all sources present when possible, regardless of size, popularity, or reputation, in order to hold them accountable.

In both cases, decisions to not permanently ban Naps or QSC were made out of loyalty to the vision of a harm reduction forum that holds all sources accountable, not because of financial considerations.

I hope the actions MESO has taken - including losing sponsorships and enduring criticism for sticking to its principles - dispel any lingering doubts about the influence of financial motivations.

I know some will remain skeptical. We’re not perfect, we make mistakes, and we could have handled things differently but we remain committed to harm reduction. I honestly hope you believe that.

I would like to work together as a community to find ways to improve MESO
even when disagreements arise. I'm open to ideas and suggestions.
 
wow i talked about steroids on a steroid forum!
youre a pussy dude

yeah i guess i cant post in the testing thread, guess thats one less person promoting testing!

all you do on this forum is talk shit to people, like a miserable little boy because i hurt your feelings when I called you out previously for using this forum just to feel better about yourself by intentionally misinterpreting and dramatizing peoples posts like a karen.

whyd you want to make this all about me again?
because I said people wanting cheap gear has nothing to do with testing?
Why would that trigger you?
are you trying to look cool in front of the other users here? for your werid parasocial validation?

you just want to attack other people online like a werido because your life sucks. how old are you dude? grow up
Maybe you should look at all of your posts on this thread/countless other threads.


1. You are openly attacking everyone, calling them dumb while you give terrible advice. Preaching harm reduction while advising harm.
2. You literally are one of the people who does buy cheap gear.
3. You are delusional and full of yourself.
4. I am cool.

5. I am 12, where am I?
 
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1. You are openly attacking everyone.
where? the shills?
2. You literally are one of the people who does buy cheap gear.
when? how do you know? because I have anavar i must have bought it from QSC?? you know all about me, this is just another example of you intentionally intrepreting peoples words in the least charitable way so you can talk maximum shit to feel better about yourself
3. Because you are delusional and full of yourself.
there it is, its very personal to you, you don't like readalot either because he makes you feel insecure about your intelligence, or lack thereof
 
where? the shills?

when? how do you know? because I have anavar i must have bought it from QSC?? you know all about me, this is just another example of you intentionally intrepreting peoples words in the least charitable way so you can talk maximum shit to feel better about yourself

there it is, its very personal to you, you don't like readalot either because he makes you feel insecure about your intelligence, or lack thereof
1.What Shill? Who is shilling here?

2. Anyone who searches your username and "Harm" Can see something is mentally wrong with you.

3. Intelligence? yea right. Keep trying to measure grams with your eyes. You are clearly off the rails.
 
Did you read everything bro?

How is that a "shift?"

Mandatory source-sponsored full enhanced testing panel -> advocating for more customer testing & harm reduction -> against harm reduction.

Most members fall in the middle. Being against harm reduction is a big shift in that spectrum and I don't think it applies to anyone.
 
1.What Shill? Who is shilling here?

2. Anyone who searches your username and "Harm" Can see something is mentally wrong with you.
sounds like projection
3. Intelligence? yea right. Keep trying to measure grams with your eyes. You are clearly off the rails.
keep trying to convince yourself you're smarter than me, maybe if you keep posting about how dumb I am you'll believe it.
 
you're just another fat guy who decided to take gear because of a mid life crisis.
do you even workout?
Guy you just posted a day ago telling a noob who has low energy that he doesn’t need bloodwork he obviously has low T and start taking gear and to blast like he used to. Dude has been off training and gear for months or years. Your “advice” is not only bad but dangerous. If you want to treat your body that way and screw yourself by all means have at it. But take pill to treat that diarrhea of the mouth before you hurt someone.
 
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