Not gaining even on cycle

[Johnylee]

After 12 weeks on cycle iv put on a kg if that, I'm looking like iv added muscle but considering I'm using steroids the gains look pathetic

First 6 weeks was injectable dbol, test cypionate and eq

At 6 weeks I stopped dbol added LGD and kept on with cypionate and eq, at 10 weeks changed brand of cyp and eq

I have severe barrets esophagus so meals are blended and drank but I'm having enough to put on weight even if protein around 250 and carbs are 300 possibly less

Surely my digestive system isn't that bad that I'm not gaining weight especially when meals are blended so easier to digest, changed labs because thought first lot underdosed

Any suggestions?

 

[cigardave007]

Not sure what to say. Looks like the second lab may be bunk.
Any change in appearance, strength etc?

How much are you taking of each compound?

May be a thing nowadays, just never heard injectable dbol and EQ in the same cycle. That should really blow you up!

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

Um your steroids are probably fake or weak :/

You should have gained like 10-20lbs the first week on testosterone cypionate. This being water/glycogen.

 

[JC Grifter]

could be you’re not eating enough. Could be your gear is under dosed or bunk. Could be you have shitty genetics. There’s plenty of people on gear that look like shit.

 

[All Nats McGee]

Test dbol and EQ are the least faked. Most guys that don’t gain think their eating enough but if you ask them to actually count their calories most of the time they come up short.

It could also be the EQ which should be thrown away. No E2 no gains.

 

[Johnylee]

Thanks for replies, because I'm mainly using steroids to raise hemoglobin I'm on low doses. I have a blood disorder and can't always get much needed blood transfusions

Test 200mg, EQ 250, Dbol was 25 per day

Iv had a few people say EQ lowers E2 but nobody said it would affect gains, EQ was the main one for raising my hemoglobin

Can I ask why people use EQ if it affects gains and especially using it on its own as a few people have said they do

I'd agree about them being fake gear but iv used different labs and no change in results, since using 2nd lab for past 2weeks iv got more spots so I'd say it's definitely not fake gear and what I have found strange is at 100mg test from another lab at beginning of the year I got gyno real easy but this time no gyno even when I was using dbol and I have pre existing gyno for the past 10 years, is the EQ stopping that ?

Regarding diet, as I'm having to blend food and drink I am struggling to eat more than what I am but protein is around 250 with carbs higher I know that's not high for both but I'd still see gains on steroids surely

 

[bluzzer]

you are not eating enough food

 

[Johnylee]

I do agree the protein and carbs are on the low side but I'd still see gains from what I am eating surely, IL add in more protein sources see if anything changes

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

I ate less protein per day than that and got pretty ripped. While on a carb deficit. I followed the 1gram to each lb of lean tissue. So I ate about 170 grams of protein, 2000-2500 calories. End of 8 weeks I had 190lb of lean tissue(half water gainz) Unless the fat I had basically supplemented my body with energy to grow? Anyways I was on 300mg testosterone cyponiate/wk and 25-50mg anavar/day

I do agree the protein and carbs are on the low side but I'd still see gains from what I am eating surely, IL add in more protein sources see if anything changes

 

[Johnylee]

That's what I'm saying I know I'm not going to get crazy massive off what I'm eating but to see scales not go up week after week and 12 weeks in something is not right, I can't keep blaming gear when I'm trying different labs

I don't want to ramp up gear for the sake of it to get more sides and still no gains

 

[bluzzer]

I can't grow unless i gets 600-700g carbs a day

 

[Johnylee]

I'm going to try adding more food before raising doses , I'm interested to know more about EQ affecting gains because of lowered E2

 

[master0n]

ur receptors just sucks for steds, that's genetics, same happens to me, i don't even feel trem at all, GH + Insuline + deca/dbol it what works best for us, gl m8

 

[Johnylee]

ur receptors just sucks for steds, that's genetics, same happens to me, i don't even feel trem at all, GH + Insuline + deca/dbol it what works best for us, gl m8

Just my luck that I used peptides for raising growth hormone but it raises grelin and hey guess what grelin plays a big part in making barrets esophagus worse and it did just that to me which is why I'm now on blended food again

I'm just one of the unlucky ones in life , poor genetics predisposed to all life's ailments

 

[master0n]

Just my luck that I used peptides for raising growth hormone but it raises grelin and hey guess what grelin plays a big part in making barrets esophagus worse and it did just that to me which is why I'm now on blended food again

I'm just one of the unlucky ones in life , poor genetics predisposed to all life's ailments

same shit happens to me, just don't risk ur health, it doesn't worth it, if you still ''really wanna make it brah'' give it a try to gh/insu/deca/dbol comb, only thing i really feel

 

[Johnylee]

I used injectable dbol at the start of this cycle for 6 weeks and didn't see much but maybe I need to ramp up calories, I am thinking deca next after this EQ and LGD has run out, what's a good starting dose for deca with test cypionate?

 

[bluzzer]

I'm going to try adding more food before raising doses , I'm interested to know more about EQ affecting gains because of lowered E2

Eq aren't gonna crash your E2.
No problem with Eq unless you using heavy dose of Ai

 

[bluzzer]

ur receptors just sucks for steds, that's genetics, same happens to me, i don't even feel trem at all, GH + Insuline + deca/dbol it what works best for us, gl m8

Let me know your stats ; Procotol for roids, hgh insulin ; Food
It can't be right what you claim. There is something that you dont do right

 

[bluzzer]

After 12 weeks on cycle iv put on a kg if that, I'm looking like iv added muscle but considering I'm using steroids the gains look pathetic

First 6 weeks was injectable dbol, test cypionate and eq

At 6 weeks I stopped dbol added LGD and kept on with cypionate and eq, at 10 weeks changed brand of cyp and eq

I have severe barrets esophagus so meals are blended and drank but I'm having enough to put on weight even if protein around 250 and carbs are 300 possibly less

Surely my digestive system isn't that bad that I'm not gaining weight especially when meals are blended so easier to digest, changed labs because thought first lot underdosed

Any suggestions?

Johnny, please tell me how many calories you eat a day.

You have already said that you eat 250g protein and 300g carbs.

Thats 2200 calories. Then i assume you maybe would be around 50-75g fat

That will give you 2650-2875 calories a day.

Then you go heavy lifting for 1-1,5 hour. That will put you on 2000 maintenance.

Not much for gaining.

I need to get at least 4500 kcal for gaining. I and gets 700 kcal around workout. Pineapple just before, carbs/EAA intra and carbs/protein after

 

[Johnylee]

Johnny, please tell me how many calories you eat a day.

You have already said that you eat 250g protein and 300g carbs.

Thats 2200 calories. Then i assume you maybe would be around 50-75g fat

That will give you 2650-2875 calories a day.

Then you go heavy lifting for 1-1,5 hour. That will put you on 2000 maintenance.

Not much for gaining.

I need to get at least 4500 kcal for gaining. I and gets 700 kcal around workout. Pineapple just before, carbs/EAA intra and carbs/protein after

Will reply in detail soon , thanks any advice is much appreciated yes guess I'm just not consuming enough for my body type / health issues