Banning immigrants from "certain" countries

[XKawN]

If there is no job they won't come or stay here. A lot of the talk about we need them to take jobs no one wants is bullshit.

I lived in south utah 10 years ago and undocumented workers had driven down wages $7000 a year for a guy with only a high school diploma. They were building roads, working construction, jobs that should have went to Americans. I'd go acroos the street to the convenience store at lunch and no one spoke English.

Crucify a few contractors and that shit will not happen. Same with companies if upper management has to do a year in county jail or a few in prison there will no longer be a problem. Agriculture is an exception and those who work need to be documented.

As long as Americans profit because of undocumented workers there will be undocumented workers. This is a simple problem to correct. We just have to lock up a few employers.

I agree with everything you said here. I would just like if they start handing out punishments in the public sector first. If your caught giving food stamps or any other government aid government employees should go to jail. Anyone complicit go to jail. Those political figures declaring their city's, counties, states, etc sanctuary areas should go to prison. I'm not all for kicking down doors or dragging harmless illegal immigrants across the border. I don't blame someone for wanting to try and make it here, who wouldn't? But the enablers need to be addressed and that includes people's like my own governor jerry brown.

 

[ronin17]

I agree with everything you said here. I would just like if they start handing out punishments in the public sector first. If your caught giving food stamps or any other government aid government employees should go to jail. Anyone complicit go to jail. Those political figures declaring their city's, counties, states, etc sanctuary areas should go to prison. I'm not all for kicking down doors or dragging harmless illegal immigrants across the border. I don't blame someone for wanting to try and make it here, who wouldn't? But the enablers need to be addressed and that includes people's like my own governor jerry brown.

Bro, I agree 100% with zero financial aid, food stamps, even medical care to a certain degree the person is here illegally.

You need to understand something though, it isnt nearly as large of a number as you think. Unfortunately, its our fellow Americans who abuse these programs the most.

And punishing the employers is where it had to start. We have never done this really. So, its no surprise illegal immigration is what it is.

If I they cant work, they wont come. The employers reap the benefits of the cheap labor, fellow Americans lose thier jobs. It absolutely has to start with employers. The wouldn't be in the sanctuary cities if they didn't have jobs in those cities.

Know what I mean jellybean?

 

[kawilt]

Am I imagining it or did Trump mention a tariff? Or whatever else you want to call it...

 

[master.on]

If (instert nationality here) are so great why their country is so unbelievably crappy?
Simple answer: they aren't that great. Plain fact.

Everything else is propaganda.

 

[ronin17]

If (instert nationality here) are so great why their country is so unbelievably crappy?
Simple answer: they aren't that great. Plain fact.

Everything else is propaganda.

The same thing could be said about the usa dipstick. Please stick to your usual threads about caber making your dick bigger or raws being 50-60%.

You know, your made up nonsense threads. Leave politics to the adults gfr.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

Trump Immigration Orders Dealt Further Setback
Trump Immigration Orders Dealt Further Setback

President Donald Trump’s attempt to close America’s borders to citizens of seven mostly Muslim countries suffered another blow Monday as judges on both coasts issued rulings that will make it even harder for the administration to rescue the beleaguered plan.

Together, the rulings mean that the administration may now have to start answering questions from state officials about whether Trump’s Jan. 27 executive order was a veiled attempt to ban Muslims from the U.S. The decisions in cases brought by Washington state and Virginia came just four days after a federal appeals court in San Francisco ruled against the administration, moving the entire issue a step closer to possible review by the U.S. Supreme Court.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

[WTF] Russian lawmakers rush to the defense of Trump’s ex-national security adviser

MOSCOW — Leading Russian lawmakers rushed to defend President Trump’s former national security adviser on Tuesday after he resigned for misleading senior White House officials, including Vice President Pence, about his contacts with Russia.

 

[Gbaby12]

I agree with the ban, terrorist would come into are country as immigrants from those nations. This has gotten over top though, Police are setting up checkpoints specifically for muslim and Hispanic looking people. What is this Nazi Germany? under know means should you walk the streets in a "free" country and have to worry about police asking you for your papers.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

 

[XKawN]

WTF, lol.

 

[Docd187123]

WTF, lol.

Did you read the link? It does not say that no immigrants commit crime. What it does say is that as immigrant population increases in a metropolitan area the crime decreases for several reasons they hypothesize.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

 

[Big_paul]

I agree with everything you said here. I would just like if they start handing out punishments in the public sector first. If your caught giving food stamps or any other government aid government employees should go to jail. Anyone complicit go to jail. Those political figures declaring their city's, counties, states, etc sanctuary areas should go to prison. I'm not all for kicking down doors or dragging harmless illegal immigrants across the border. I don't blame someone for wanting to try and make it here, who wouldn't? But the enablers need to be addressed and that includes people's like my own governor jerry brown.

People should be here legally. To me the most important question is what to do with men, women and children born here. Imo they are as American as you or me.

This country avoided dealing with this problem under both Republican and Democratic administrations and congress.
Deport them.

No one should be in this country illegally. They should have a green card or permit to work in this country. I feel the same way about high tech positions filled by foreign workers brought here to save a company the expense of hiring Americans.

When I see Americans going to prison for hiring any worker over an American who would do that work we ni longer have a problem.

America doesn't need to subsidize American corporations by allowing them to hire Indian or Pakistani workers who will work for less. Increase the funds we invest in American students and hire only American.

 

[XKawN]

People should be here legally. To me the most important question is what to do with men, women and children born here. Imo they are as American as you or me.

This country avoided dealing with this problem under both Republican and Democratic administrations and congress.
Deport them.

No one should be in this country illegally. They should have a green card or permit to work in this country. I feel the same way about high tech positions filled by foreign workers brought here to save a company the expense of hiring Americans.

When I see Americans going to prison for hiring any worker over an American who would do that work we ni longer have a problem.

America doesn't need to subsidize American corporations by allowing them to hire Indian or Pakistani workers who will work for less. Increase the funds we invest in American students and hire only American.

Agree, but what to do with those who weren't born here? I say, unless they've committed a crime, leave them alone. Let's work on closing the flood gate, work on government assistance and work on jobs for illegals. Then we deport the criminals, work on those that are here and are law abiding, hard working individuals and build a campfire and sing cumbaya. In that order. See, both the right and the left has preached building a wall and beefing up border security. Just turns in to an evil thing when one actually starts the process. It's like the Iraq war. Both sides voted to go in then one side jumped back when the train was full speed ahead and fried foul.

 

[CherryChillin]

You actually believe that Muslim people should be judged because of 3 animals. How about when a white suprimist blows up a black church or synagogue? Should we ban anymore white people from entering our country or better identify white suprimist.
@tenpoundsleft

Shut the fuck up you idiot.

Use logic.

All the rapes in Oslo are committed 100% by Muslim men.

Read the facts. The Koran says if a woman isn't wearing a head scarf, they're a whore and must be punished by rape.

Do you even watch the news.

These sand niggers are fucking animals and have no fucking place in Europe.

I'm disgusted with you.

 

[CherryChillin]

You started the thread. Now, you defend your specious reasoning with a reference to potential criminals? I say that potential and actual criminals come from all ethnicities. What's your point?

Pretty much all murders in America are committed by black males against other black males.

It's time we stop thinking with our ovaries and use our brains

 

[CherryChillin]

Germany after the 2. World war. Early fifties and sixties 100.000's of Turkish immigrants moved to Germany.they needed work force after war killed most men.They are integrated and became proud part of the society.
Several of the German National soccer team are Turkish right now. So the good examples exists.....

We're talking today dipshit. You know that too

 

[CherryChillin]

I can't believe anyone would support Islam. We're fucked

 

[tenpoundsleft]

We're talking today dipshit. You know that too

Turks of the highly secular Kemal Ataturk era and the current crop are different beasts altogether. Turkey has seen creeping Muslimification efforts since the late 1960s.

Pineapples and handgrenades comparison - they only look similar to the naive and uninformed.

 

[tenpoundsleft]

I can't believe anyone would support Islam. We're fucked

Most ironically, it's the hard-core liberals (socialists/lefties to non-US audience) that defend Islam. They espouse women's choice, gay rights, and all sorts of rights and freedoms in the West - all good by me btw - but these are activities that would come to a stunningly snappy halt the second Muslims are in charge. Heads would roll, hands would be cut, tongues severed, bodies stoned or tossed off tall building - and worse.

Over-educated savages - that's what the western left has become.