*Bloodwork* PCT-SHOP norma amps/24k tren a

[Wunderpus]

Oh, dang, thanks for catching that for me CeyMore. I mis-spoke/mistyped. I read the title wrong and thought the test was from 24k also.

As some of the guys suggested, maybe the tren had some test in it, or the amps are overdosed. I would believe either of those scenarios over the lab testing being wrong.

Bickel, it is possible these amps are properly dosed. We give so much credit to the possible variances on blood tests when they are low... "Oh, everyone reacts differently, that's why you're 5x and JohnnyAppleseed is 8x...."

Surely, it is possible to be on the opposite end and very receptive to test and have a higher-than-normal TT, right?

 

[bickel29]

Bickel, it is possible these amps are properly dosed. We give so much credit to the possible variances on blood tests when they are low... "Oh, everyone reacts differently, that's why you're 5x and JohnnyAppleseed is 8x...."

Surely, it is possible to be on the opposite end and very receptive to test and have a higher-than-normal TT, right?

I suppose it's possible but if I am doing my math correctly he came back at approx. 13.5 x weekly dose. This dude is a testosterone super responder - he needs to work that into his biz card somewhere - good way to impress female clients when introducing yourself!

 

[Wunderpus]

I suppose it's possible but if I am doing my math correctly he came back at approx. 13.5 x weekly dose. This dude is a testosterone super responder - he needs to work that into his biz card somewhere - good way to impress female clients when introducing yourself!

I am not saying that MUST be the case, but it certainly COULD be the case.

I can't really understand an argument for why 24K would spike his tren with test, unless the raws showed up that way/there was a contamination.

His sides are very tren-like, no doubt about that.

Either way, this looks like a good combo for him.

 

[Lee_1978]

I am not saying that MUST be the case, but it certainly COULD be the case.

I can't really understand an argument for why 24K would spike his tren with test, unless the raws showed up that way/there was a contamination.

His sides are very tren-like, no doubt about that.

Either way, this looks like a good combo for him.

I've just started my 2nd cycle (Test E/Dbol) and I've also got those exact amps with the same lot/expiry numbers, so I'll post figures after 5 weeks to see if they corroborate.

 

[Sampei]

Or.. If he is drawing the full Amp he is injecting more test then what he is supposed to inject. Amps have mostly 1.2ml
In it. Dosed: 250mg/ml so if he is injecting 1,2x2 it's: 2.4ml of test E weekly. That's 600mg of test. I don't remember the number he had on the blood test. Was it 6000?

 

[Mofotyler]

Or.. If he is drawing the full Amp he is injecting more test then what he is supposed to inject. Amps have mostly 1.2ml
In it. Dosed: 250mg/ml so if he is injecting 1,2x2 it's: 2.4ml of test E weekly. That's 600mg of test. I don't remember the number he had on the blood test. Was it 6000?

I was getting right at 1mil a amp I was having some air bubble issues, so I left a little in bottom to avoid as much air as I can. Number was 6.7k

 

[Mofotyler]

I'm off the amps now and on pharacom test e. I'm dosing it exactly the same. I will retest when the amps 100%clear system. Will see what the numbers are on that. Not sure if makes any difference or not. Just see how it compared I guess.

 

[zmoney]

Hi so you say you didn't rate the pharmacom tren a when you tried it? Worrying as I was going to try it myself

 

[zmoney]

Or.. If he is drawing the full Amp he is injecting more test then what he is supposed to inject. Amps have mostly 1.2ml
In it. Dosed: 250mg/ml so if he is injecting 1,2x2 it's: 2.4ml of test E weekly. That's 600mg of test. I don't remember the number he had on the blood test. Was it 6000?

I have the same norma and taking into account the ester weight there is actually 180mg of active ingredient per amp. This is confirmed with the paperwork that comes with the amp

 

[Sampei]

I have the same norma and taking into account the ester weight there is actually 180mg of active ingredient per amp. This is confirmed with the paperwork that comes with the amp

You never calculate that... It makes no sense to calculate thinking of ester weight because then you have to convert any other results that didn't calculate that.

Norma Amps and especially Bayer amp has almost 0.4 more for every amp to account for spillage-wasted in the syringe etc.

So if you inject the full amp you are injecting 2.8ml of test E 250

That means: almost 700mg of test E with 2 amps. Doesn't Matter how much is Ester weight and how much is testosterone.

 

[zmoney]

You never calculate that... It makes no sense to calculate thinking of ester weight because then you have to convert any other results that didn't calculate that.

Norma Amps and especially Bayer amp has almost 0.4 more for every amp to account for spillage-wasted in the syringe etc.

So if you inject the full amp you are injecting 2.8ml of test E 250

That means: almost 700mg of test E with 2 amps. Doesn't Matter how much is Ester weight and how much is testosterone.

I took a photo of the information that comes with each norma test e amp, as you can see it says each 250mg contains 180mg of active test so these things should certainly be considered

 

[zmoney]

I can also confirm that I only get 1ml out of each amp there isn't really any notable excess

 

[Sampei]

I can also confirm that I only get 1ml out of each amp there isn't really any notable excess

I get more then 1ml on my Norma amps. Maybe yours are fake? Dunno.

By the way you don't get the whole 180mg or 250mg. It's the ester weight!!! You don't fucking take it on account because no one does when looking at blood.

Nevermind

 

[zmoney]

I get more then 1ml on my Norma amps. Maybe yours are fake? Dunno.

By the way you don't get the whole 180mg or 250mg. It's the ester weight!!! You don't fucking take it on account because no one does when looking at blood.

Nevermind

I live in Europe and I get mine from a Greek pharmacy which is perfectly legal here so I have no reason to think they are fakes. I still don't understand what you mean but I'll drop it, just wanted to put the information out there from the leaflet in the pack.

 

[Sampei]

I live in Europe and I get mine from a Greek pharmacy which is perfectly legal here so I have no reason to think they are fakes. I still don't understand what you mean but I'll drop it, just wanted to put the information out there from the leaflet in the pack.

Then maybe mine are fake can you post a pic of the amp?

 

[zmoney]

Then maybe mine are fake can you post a pic of the amp?

Hey man, I would check your amps against this thread to see if they are fake since it lists all the ways

Fake Norma Test E | MESO-Rx Forum

 

[bickel29]

Guys, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'd be VERY surprised if any of these legit pharmaceuticals companies would ever intentionally overfill a vial (or unintentionally, since they have world class manufacturing controls in place).

Big pharma execs NEVER say "go ahead and throw a little extra in there". Instead, they say "1/10th of an extra ml in every vial equals one full wasted vial for every 100 vials we manufacture, over the course of one month of production, that equals XX hundreds of thousands of dollars in loss/waste".

I might be wrong, but I'd be real surprised if I was. Every can of Miller Lite has exactly 12 ounces, for the same reasons above. Every 750ml bottle of wine is filled to the exact same amount, for the same reason. Every bottle of peroxide at your pharmacy is filled to the same level....

 

[Trapmonster]

Guys, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I'd be VERY surprised if any of these legit pharmaceuticals companies would ever intentionally overfill a vial (or unintentionally, since they have world class manufacturing controls in place).

Big pharma execs NEVER say "go ahead and throw a little extra in there". Instead, they say "1/10th of an extra ml in every vial equals one full wasted vial for every 100 vials we manufacture, over the course of one month of production, that equals XX hundreds of thousands of dollars in loss/waste".

I might be wrong, but I'd be real surprised if I was. Every can of Miller Lite has exactly 12 ounces, for the same reasons above. Every 750ml bottle of wine is filled to the exact same amount, for the same reason. Every bottle of peroxide at your pharmacy is filled to the same level....

Hmm... my dr. Prescribed trt 1ml vials come with 1.2ml~

 

[zmoney]

I was actually going to email 24k and ask him if it's possible. I did 1 bottle of pharmacom tren then back to 24k tren. The difference is night and day. 24k has me on the verge of killing everyone and sweating all night. Maybe it could be testp? All I can do is retest after I stop the tren.

Can you please tell me a bit more about the pharmacom tren? I was going to get some this week but seeing this wasn't reassuring

 

[Mofotyler]

Can you please tell me a bit more about the pharmacom tren? I was going to get some this week but seeing this wasn't reassuring

Well I would say next time tren will be coming from 24k not pharmacom. Now I'm not saying pharmacom was fake or anything, just that 24k was much better. For all I know pharmacom was dosed correctly and the 24k was overdosed. Aggresion night sweets and shortness of breath big time on 24k not so much on pharmacom.